Re: [glob2-devel] Music

[Max Shinn]

> So instead of triggering after 10 seconds of attack, we could wait 4
> seconds and trigger at the next possible/convenient time.
This would work nicely.

Another idea:
The reason I am opposed to the current system is because it seems like it will 
get monotonous.  What if I made several sets of songs.  Each set would have 
however many different moods we would want to set.  Each set would have the 
same melody line, tonality, tempo, etc.  Then, the sets would be played in a 
random order.  This would allow us to keep the current system and will make 
it so that it doesn't just loop over and over.  One problem with this system, 
though, is that the music won't be as customized to the mood, especially with 
the war music.  Another would be file size.

One way we could overcome one of these problems is by using a hybrid system.  
The war music uses the delay system, where it changes at the convenient time.  
All of the other mood music uses the set system, with several sets of almost 
identical loops.  This may be more difficult to program though.

I also made the war music loop a little better.  It is at: 
http://BernsteinForPresident.com/glob2-war.ogg

Thanks!
Max

> Our current war music is IMHO the weakest music buy far.
> And I believe it is that way because of the hard constrains - that
> it has to alert (with a lot of short and false alerts) and fit a mood at
> the same time. 


On Monday 11 February 2008 6:04:39 am Kai Antweiler wrote:
> > Sorry but I have to oppose this. I think that with the dynamic mixing of
> > the three types of music we have a moderately original (LucasGames did it
> > with imuse at the end of the last century) that can give great feedback
> > to the user.
>
> Also, I wouldn't like too loose our current music.
>
> > I agree we should have longer musics, and why not more than three
> > ambiances, but I think that we should not remove this mixing system
> > without a consultation with the community (and with the original author
> > of this system, who is me).
>
> We should care about the conditions that trigger the music.
> If we want our music to express a proper mood at a given time,
> we're currently do a bad job.  Not every explorer that flies near the
> enemy should put us into war-mood for 2 seconds.
>
> We are currently mixing two different functions:
> 1.music shall alert us
> 2.music shall fit to the mood
> The first one can be done better by sound effects.
>
> If we would wait whether our units are in danger for a few seconds,
> this would reduce false mood switches in the music.
> We also could give the music composer the chance of determining
> certain points in time (for each music) at which the music allows for
> smooth mixing to another peace of music - or certain intervals that
> postpone a music change for astetic reasons.
>
> So instead of triggering after 10 seconds of attack, we could wait 4
> seconds and trigger at the next possible/convenient time.
>
> Using sound effects for alerts, also will prepare the user that a
> change in music might happen soon.  So this adds to the smoothness.
>
>
> I think this are fairer conditions to the composer.
> Our current war music is IMHO the weakest music buy far.
> And I believe it is that way because of the hard constrains - that
> it has to alert (with a lot of short and false alerts) and fit a mood at
> the same time. Constantly starting at the beginning and ending quickly.
> There is no chance to develop any theme for this short time that would also
> be useful for hours of glob2-battles.