Re: alignment of unattached lyrics - opinions needed

[David Kastrup]

Janek Warchoł <address@hidden> writes:

> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM, David Kastrup <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Janek Warchoł <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> I think usually this is just user sloppiness.  In this case, i think
>>> it would be good if Lily was smart enough to fix this sloppiness as
>>> long as the fix isn't complicated (it isn't).  If the user really
>>> wants left-aligned unattached lyrics, he can use overrides above.
>>> An example where using unattached Lyrics makes sense and yet they
>>> should be centered: entering lyrics for two similar, but not exactly
>>> rhythmically identical voices:
>>
>> Like with \relative and similar aids I am of the opinion that the
>> "helpfulness" of rerhythming lyrics should be strictly optional.
>> Indeed, generating lyrics from Midi (or similar) or entering them
>> without wracking one's brain about the proper melismatic arrangement
>> of the melody line should be perfectly feasible.
>
> Do you say this in general, or are you referring to the example i
> posted?  I don't quite see how should i interpret your words.

Just like they are written.  I was not referring to examples.

>> I know that I prefer entering lyrics with durations over fiddling
>> with \melismata commands, beaming, differences between phrasing slurs
>> and proper slurs and what not.  As with absolute note entry, I think
>> the way in which our documentation tries keeping the more basic and
>> reliable tools unknown to the user is overdone.
>
> Do you mean that we should recommend/give more attention in docs to
> entering lyrics with explicit durations?

"more"?  I don't think we even mention that possibility at all.

>> At any rate, I am quite in favor of \addlyrics and similar _only_
>> affecting the rhythm of the lyrics and not other aspects of their
>> typesetting.
>
> Could you be more specific as to what you wouldn't like \addlyrics to
> do?

Anything else except changing the rhythm of the lyrics.  Aligning lyrics
at a point of time to notecolumns at the same point of time should not
require associating voices.

-- 
David Kastrup