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Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

From: Luca Fascione
Subject: Re: Prefer luatex for documentation
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 16:50:45 +0100

I'd have thought au jour d'ui 227MB qualifies as small, no? It's averaging
at 500kB/package which is bigger than I thought (I'd have thought more like
50k tops, tbh) but it seems like it'd be a relatively manageable size for a
one-off setup...

A compiler or browser release or a couple weeks worth of system updates are
probably a comparable size?

I'm also wondering whether your point that you get all locales together
would imply that the locale test can simply check for a couple ones that
are not commonly together, amd if that fails ask to install a complete

After all if a developer can't spare a couple hundred megs is not like
they'll be able to build much on their machine, nor use it for much longer
that day anyways...


On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, 15:14 Werner LEMBERG, <> wrote:

> > Question: I would have thought locales would be a) largely present,
> > b) small and easy to install as dependencies, like many other
> > dependencies we have (and substantially less prone to change than
> > any software dependency)
> >
> > Where does the concern with locales not being available on a system
> > come from?
> It's often not installed, and it lacks standardization.  And no,
> locales are not small and easy but quite heavy instead – the
> `/usr/lib/locale` directory on my openSUSE GNU/Linux box provides 494
> locales and has a whopping size of 227MByte, mainly for collation and
> character type information.  Normally, you won't get a single locale
> as a separate package, which forces you to install all of them.
>     Werner

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