Re: [screen-devel] screen maintainer?

[Juergen Weigert]

Karl, your input is appreciated on this.

On Jun 12, 08 11:02:47 -0700, Micah Cowan wrote:
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> Hm, just to be clear, I was speaking of myself when I spoke of a
> "vice-maintainer"; you'll still need to find someone to be the "real"
> maintainer, 

Agreed, welcome fellow Vice-Maintainer :-)
I've flicked a few switches on https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/screen/
you should feel more comfortable there now.

Can you help us finding additional staff?
You mentioned that you were successful on that with wget, so ...

> I think, unless that would be help enough to allow you to
> remain in that role; there will at least need to be someone else to take
> on most of the actual development stuff.

We have a decent backlock of bugs and patches filed at savannah.
Working on these alone, plus some VCS is an appreciated step forward.

With regard to the 'need of a new maintainer', 
I cannot comprehensivly describe what exactly is needed. 
I am just happy, a helping hand spoke up and whould like to offer to you:
"Do as much as you like, or as little as you can do".
Screen is a leaf project. So unless a security-issue comes our way,
I believe we are free to remain in the "as much or as little" mode.

Let us ask Karl to comment on this.

        cheers,
                Jw.

> 
> I imagine placing me in that role, which wouldn't really an official GNU
> role, unless you wanted to go with co-maintainer, just involves handing
> some responsibilities to me, and perhaps giving me manager or admin
> access on Savannah (if you're using that or some other bug tracke), and
> commit access* to the repository; and pointing me at whatever queue of
> patches and TODO items you might have that aren't officially tracked
> anywhere.
> 
> * If you're planning on migrating to a more modern VCS, then rather than
> giving me commit access to CVS, it might be simpler to have me work in
> my own private repository, until you can be sure of the work I'm doing
> ;) ...then again, VCSses are VCSses, and so crap can always be backed
> out. :)
> 
> - -Micah
> 
> Juergen Weigert wrote:
> > Okey dokey, 
> > 
> > Thank you Micah for volunteering!
> > I am ready to step down and become Vice-Maintainer, I will 
> > continue to do my share of evil stress testing, and will do 
> > the next few official releases -- whenever we find
> > we built something that is worth a release. No doubt.
> > 
> > Micha is happy too with having you aboard, 
> > and confirmed that your plans make sense.
> > 
> > Oh, having one 'Micha' and one 'Micah' on the team 
> > may become confusing, but I think I can manage this :-)
> > 
> > Karl, is there any official ceremony for applying-to and 
> > handing-over maintainership?
> > Or do you just need to say "Agreed. Done."?
> > 
> >         thanks,
> >                 Jw.
> > 
> > On Jun 11, 08 22:13:59 -0700, Micah Cowan wrote:
> > Juergen Weigert wrote:
> >>>> On Jun 12, 08 12:59:46 -0500, Karl Berry wrote:
> >>>>> And otherwise, we're looking for a new maintainer.  So if you are
> >>>>> interested in taking care of screen going forward, please write me and
> >>>>> we can discuss.
> >>>> Frankly, I'd opt for finding a new maintainer. My time on screen is
> >>>> too limited to do any good. Micha is developing new features at a steady
> >>>> pace, but also under limited time.  
> >>>> I believe we'd need someone to tend to bug reports, consoldiate patches
> >>>> into some git or svn and care for regular releases.
> > GNU Screen holds a particular place in my heart. I'd volunteer for
> > maintainership, but of course GNU Wget is already taking more than
> > enough of my time. However, I'd be happy to pitch in with migrating the
> > repo from CVS to a more modern VCS, such as git (I am very happy with
> > Wget's own move to a distributed VCS, though we went with Mercurial for
> > portability reasons that probably wouldn't apply so much for Screen),
> > and could help with screening and applying patches. I've no time for
> > serious development, but perhaps when you've found a real maintainer, I
> > can volunteer as a sort of vice-maintainer, helping with the more
> > boring, administrative aspects. ;) "tending to bug reports,
> > consolidating patches", etc, is something I could help with; "care for
> > regular releases" will have to be someone else's department, at least as
> > far as actual leadership and ownership of the project is concerned.
> > 
> > BTW, advertising the need for developer help on Savannah was very
> > effective for Wget; I'd recommend it for Screen (though, the barrier to
> > entry is possibly higher for Screen).
> > 
> 
> - --
> Micah J. Cowan
> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer,
> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer.
> http://micah.cowan.name/
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