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Re: patch (was: Re: lynx-dev LYNXCFG:, LYNXCOMPILEOPTS:)


From: Henry Nelson
Subject: Re: patch (was: Re: lynx-dev LYNXCFG:, LYNXCOMPILEOPTS:)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:26:51 +0900 (JST)

> > It seems to me that even the developers prefer the output from trace.
> 
> It is different kind of information.

My point was that developers invariably ask for trace output, but rarely
if ever ask for the LYNXCOMPILEOPTS page.

> > Should this line be deleted? 
> > 
> > How useful is this information coming from a general user who has no idea
> > what the output means? 
> 
> It is useful.  (Or better - it would be useful.)

You're the developer.

> > really want someone to send a copy of that page, I think you
> > at least ought to suggest a way for them to do that, i.e., mention mailing
> > from the P)rint Menu.  
> 
> Some users know how to do that, some don't.

That's my point.  Not everyone is running in an environment where they
can simply cut-n-paste.  It is not realistic to expect someone to type
all that information, perhaps after first having to jot it all down.

> > Do you really want a bunch of those coming to lynx-dev?
> 
> Why not?

Well, mine is 12 pages long.  A lot of bug reports come in that are
obviously not of bugs, or are of bugs that have long been fixed.

> > It might be more efficient to ask for the information that is pertinent.
> 
> I don't find it very efficient to repeat a simple question like
> "Which version of lynx are you using?" again and again and again.
> Or "Is you lynx compile with slang or curses" (which many users don't

As usual, I didn't express myself well.  I meant, could LYNXCOMPILEOPTS
be designed to answer just those questions you really want answered, like
version, compiler, curses, etc.?  Would it be possible to find a subset
of compile options _essential_ to any debugging?

For example, out of:
RLOGIN_PATH                         "/usr/ucb/rlogin"
RM_PATH                             "/usr/bin/rm"
STDC_HEADERS                        1
SYSTEM_MAIL                         "/usr/lib/sendmail"
SYSTEM_MAIL_FLAGS                   "-t -oi"
TAR_PATH                            "/usr/local/bin/tar"
TELNET_PATH                         "/usr/ucb/telnet"
TERMIO_AND_CURSES                   1
TN3270_PATH                         "tn3270"
TOUCH_PATH                          "/usr/ucb/touch"
UNCOMPRESS_PATH                     "/usr/local/bin/gunzip"
UNIX                                1
UNZIP_PATH                          "/usr/bin/unzip"
could you get by without the path definitions?  Same question about
the path_* compile options.  How about func_*, header_*, type_*?

I'm asking, not arguing.  I think with a more focused and concise
LYNXCOMPILEOPTS page, the chances of getting it sent in would improve
considerably.

__Henry

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