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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size inc
From: |
Zenaan Harkness |
Subject: |
Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases |
Date: |
Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:53:10 +1000 |
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 02:51, Thomas Lord wrote:
> > From: Zenaan Harkness <address@hidden>
>
> > > 1) Deferring to a tiny installed base instead of focusing on
> > > eliminating barriers to adoption
>
> > I tend to agree.
>
> What if the opposite of "deferring to a tiny installed base" turns out
> to be equivalent to "screwing up the tool so badly that the benefit of
> adopting it is lost?"
>
> Anyway: Arch isn't deferring to any tiny installed base. It's just
> sticking to what makes the most sense to me. And it's installed base
> keeps growing, afaict, so I can't be *all* wrong.
>
> Some people run smack into arch as newbies, experience great
> frustration, then emerge as better unix users and better hackers
> generally. One small part of that, when it happens, is a shift of
> perspective about the various issues that get discussed endlessly on
> this list. So, what exactly is it I'm supposed to fix about this?
I agree nothing needs to be "fixed".
There may however be some benefit to greasing the learning curve
(eg. minimizing shell conflicts due to naming patterns).
Perhaps the argument "users become better unix users" outweighs
"more users sooner". Reminiscent of "freedom or the highway" vs.
"seduce the masses with utility".
And the consequent question: where on that curve to sit?
Does minimizing learning curves effect long term competance
in either direction?
cheers
zen
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: newbies should neither be seen nor heard, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: newbies should neither be seen nor heard, Mikhael Goikhman, 2004/10/15
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: newbies should neither be seen nor heard, John S. Yates, Jr., 2004/10/15
- [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/10/18
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases, Miles Bader, 2004/10/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases, Thomas Lord, 2004/10/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases, Dustin Sallings, 2004/10/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases, Thomas Lord, 2004/10/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/10/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases,
Zenaan Harkness <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Barriers to Adoption: exponential userbase size increases, Adrian Irving-Beer, 2004/10/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: newbies should neither be seen nor heard, Stig Brautaset, 2004/10/17
- [Gnu-arch-users] arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Mikhael Goikhman, 2004/10/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Miles Bader, 2004/10/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Mikhael Goikhman, 2004/10/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Miles Bader, 2004/10/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Mikhael Goikhman, 2004/10/17
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Miles Bader, 2004/10/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Dustin Sallings, 2004/10/18
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: arch's file naming scheme is shell unfriendly, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/10/18