Re: [Gnu-arch-users] tla front-ends

[John Meinel]

David Allouche wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 15:18 -0500, John Meinel wrote:
>
> > Well, I would like to switch to fai, but for some reason it doesn't seem 
> > to run under cygwin. I had a little bit of trouble with symlinks, though 
> > I thought I fixed that.
>
>
> It would help if you could be more specific about the problems of fai on
> cygwin. These are probably actual problems in PyArch. Though cygwin
> compatibility is not a priority for me (I have no Windows environment to
> run the tests, and I do not intend to have one) I will gladly help
> figure out the problem and accept fixes.

I'm sending a big entry to the gnu-arch-dev list. Basically it seems to 
fail in StringOutput.__read, the .read() seems to hang forever. I give 
specific examples of when, so that hopefully we can figure out why.

> > I know I have friends who would really like to see more GUI front-ends. 
> > (Something like WinCVS, TortoiseCVS, or Cervisia, where you have a path 
> > browser, and it will tell you the current state of the files, give you 
> > diffs/history, etc.). The closest one I know if is Octopy, but I'm 
> > guessing that hasn't really been maintained.
>
>
> Indeed, the maintainer seems inactive.
>
>
> > Since it is also a python app, it would probably be nice if it was 
> > modified to use the nice python wrapper instead of it's own. That way if 
> > tla is ever librified, octopy would get it for free as well. And there 
> > would be less redundant code.
>
>
> I intended to port octopy to PyArch initially. The desire to write a gtk
> equivalent to octopy was part of the original motivation behind PyArch.
>
> I plan to put a release out as soon as possible (it will probably take a
> few more months at the current pace). After that, I will welcome
> improvements needed for such a project.

It will be nice to see that.

> > I would be interested in writing a wxPython gui interface, but I have to 
> > actually finish my dissertation, so there is not much of a chance for 
> > the next few months.
>
>
> Sounds like a good timing, then :)

Hopefully we end up on the same page at the same time. :)
> > Are there other front-ends that people use? I know there is quite a few 
> > tla-contrib scripts, but that's not really a front end, just a 
> > collection of helpful things.
>
>
> I personally use tlash, which is a horrible hack. Eventually I should
> start working or Rob Weir's raw (Reusable Arch Wrapper).
>
>
> > I guess there is xtla, though I think of it as an emacs plugin, not a 
> > front end. Simply because I don't know emacs (I'm a vim user), and I 
> > don't know what kind of benefit vs time to learn emacs just to use xtla.
>
>
> xtla is a very interesting achievement, however I doubt it could teach
> much about the right way to write Arch GUI applications, as it is a very
> idiosyncratic emacs application.
>
> In my opinion, Arch GUI design is still a completely open topic.

Yeah. I used octopy a little bit, and it was a different way of dealing 
with the filesystem. Coming from CVS ones that are basically just a file 
explorer with some extra commands for running cvs commands, and a nice 
graphical history viewer.

But it will be interesting to see what turns up.

John
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