Re: [glob2-devel] Forbidden flags

[MOA333]

I think we can do this later (after v1.0)
Some other thinks we should worry is managing the defense.  We have 
nothink for defense, and the buildings are week.  ONe solution is making 
buildings stronger but it will make the game more like the old games.

If you look well you have a lot of ways to manage workers:  forbiden 
flags and ares, clearing flags,  asinging units to buildings,   (there 
coud also be plantation areas where people could just plant new 
reosurces for grow, or even buildings for storing resources inside like 
i said in a post on the forum i think, i dont remember well)

The point is we have nothink for worriors.  I look everywere on the map 
and all i see is wariors in holyday.  Even when there is a surprise 
atack, the game turns from a no deatil management game in a classical 
detailed game where you should think less and prefer the action to strategy.

On the contrary the attacker has a lot of good points, he has a way of 
managing the atack with flags that give him a lot of superiority, becuse 
the persson attacked is surprised and dont have time to bring together 
all worriors.  I used to play starcraft and there the only way to win is 
to atack, and the best way to loose is to ... atack without defending 
yourself too, especialy the main builings. the atack should be more 
difficult than the defense.

what i suggest is to eliminate the micro-management for the defense.  
this means making defense areas.

I see this defense areas constructed arround the */Defense tower:
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The base defense tower should remain the same.

We can make the most advanced defense tower, the one it is now, or even 
a more big one. Or even a diferent defense tower.

We could call it defense Center, not defense Tower:   a place to store 
resources. It should cost a lot, it should be very strong and have very 
high defense capabilities.  It should store any kind of resources neaded 
for defense construction, but not neccesary other resources.

We could assing then workers to bring resources to this defense center, 
diferent number of units for each resource, depending on how much 
priority we give to each resource.

The point is we control how many workers are working on the defense this 
way. right now whe defense walls are constructed, you have 50 workers 
neaded to build a defense wall with some defense towers.

The point is that the woriors should be able to take resources from the 
defense center and to build with them defense walls. and defense towers.

Example of defense area:

     -the defense area is always thin, i mean you are not alowed to 
construct a defense area that is larger than one thin line.  if you want 
more defense, then you can just place two defense lines, separated by a 
thin emty line.

     - when a defense line is defined all free woriors are working to 
construct a wall on this defense line, and if the wall gets destroyed by 
an atack, then they will recontruct it right after the atack without the 
user nead to place al the wall;

     -when the wall is comlete all along the defense line, your 
worriors should begin to transform the part that is most damaged or that 
is most of the time atacked; this transformation has two reasons:  
first, make the defense more powerfull by transforming the wall into 
defense towers.  seccond lets see this image:

you have a defense line like this:

****************************

only walls; you workers and worryors can't pass trough if they nead to 
atack or to gather resources on the other side , they simple cant pass 
the walls.  now you have the wall lie this:

          ++   ++  
*******++   ++*************

actualy you have destroyed 6 walls and build two defense towers that 
will alow your units to pass to the other side of the wall.  this is an 
improvement to the wall.  Be sure, no enemy unit will never try to pass 
there before destroying the two towers, it is suicide.


this should be an improvement that will be automaticaly constructed on 
the defense line when untis what to pass to the other side or when the 
wall is completed.  then workers could begin to upgrade the buildings.


Of course you should always be able to asign  workers to do that more 
fast, of even build manual defense towers and walls.but this way, you 
can build walls and towers manualy using workers at the beginging of tha 
game, then when you build your defense center, you only asign 20 workers 
to work for the defense, and put worriors at work.... also the defense 
area  will just always try to improve the defense line, by building 
walls then towers there.


When soemone atack you, you have all the defense ready, and even after 
the aatack, if the atack was not enaugh strong, you have your defense 
walls and towers rebuild in 2 minutes. (if you have resources in the 
defense center of course, you workers are not able to take resources 
from all over the map)


i think is not dificult, we can use the old areas, (only assure they are 
a thin line) and as defense center we can just build a new building. 
this will also be usefulll to store resources for constructing buildngs 
if all the resources on the map are consumed. There is no nead for 
editing tools, like in the shaped areas case.... we only nead to asing 
constructing to woriors, we already have the construction algoritms for 
the workers.


Oh, and somethink else, if there is no defense center, the woriors will 
JUST stay on the defense line, wayting for atackers in line and not 
walking all over the map like they do now.

Otehr improvement:  explorers could also be usfull on the defense:  they 
could try to make light on the unseen area surounding the defense line, 
this way we can see when the enemy is comming.



Other improvement pôssible:  areas that are to be planted, imean where 
workers should plant resources they bring from far. Like if on a 
isolated island is no wood, you nead some worriors to bring some wod and 
plant it there.
Also you dont want your enemy to atack you with workers and destroy your 
resources. so resources that are distroyed shoudl grow again from the 
earth, not from the resources that rest. that way you also have to cut 
resources more offten, or define  clearing flags and let them there. I 
want the resourcs to be cleared very fast, and also when you clear them 
i want them to grow as fast as you cleared them.  OF course if you place 
a builind you could have the possibility to cut them completly, but that 
should be done using a special plant or making the grass sand.  yes, if 
you want buildings then you have to cut the grass also for example, that 
way you will never have resources again there. but that way you are 
protected from your enemyes that atack you with workers....