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Re: [emacs-bidi] Hebrew input methods


From: Scot Becker
Subject: Re: [emacs-bidi] Hebrew input methods
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:24:30 +0100

> I can add SIL method as well.

That would be super.

> Did you try the current Emacs development trunk?  It already includes
> initial support for bidi Hebrew, and a simple Hebrew input method is
> already in place.

I have not tried it, since I assumed it was too far from being usable,
but when I read in the last thread that you haven't gotten much input,
it started to seem like it was a bit silly to wait for something usable
without at least helping in the testing.  I downloaded the repo, and will
give it a whirl.

Thank you very much for your work on this.

> Character composition does not yet work with bidi reordering, so
> currently cantillation marks will not be displayed as you'd expect.
> Hopefully, it will work by the time Yair finishes his input methods.

Wow, I'm happy with nikkud, but that's nice to know.

> Please give it a try.  By the lack of comments and bug reports, I'm
> guessing that no one except myself uses it, which is bad for
> stabilizing it and weeding out bugs.

Will do.

> > And if the layout can auto-manage the final letter forms, that's a very nice
> > plus as well.
>
> Native Hebrew speakers don't expect that, they type the final form
> themselves.  We could, of course, have some kind of auto-correction
> minor mode, whereby letters are automatically converted to their final
> forms when a space or punctuation character is typed.

Ah right.  Well, do as you see fit.  I do like it, but could surely learn to
specify them explicitly if needed.  If you decide to do it in the keymap,
you can see how the Greek ibycus4 method does it for the final sigma in
the ../leim/quail/greek.el file.  It has two lines like:

---------
 ("j" ?ς) ("s " ["ς "]) ("s," ["ς,"]) ("s." ["ς."]) ("s?" ["ς;"]) ("s;" ["ς·"])
 ("s|" ?σ) ("s" ?σ)
----------

But that of course makes it the default and only possibility.  Though
perhaps this is less of a problem for those using the SIL keymap, since
they will presumably be less used to the proper conventions.

Thanks again,

Scot




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