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Re: [emacs-bidi] Hebrew input methods


From: Yair F
Subject: Re: [emacs-bidi] Hebrew input methods
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:13:39 +0300

I can add SIL method as well.

If you request for auto-shaping for final letters from, I wo'nt think
it would be enabled by default. It is quite common in modern Hebrew
to have a non-final forms at the end of a word for words like
"microscope". There are also some biblical examples (Is. 9,6 Neh 2,
13).

Yair

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Scot Becker <address@hidden> wrote:
> Yair,
>
> This looks great, I'll be very glad to get bidi+Hebrew working in Emacs.
>
> I'm not sure what sort of suggestions you're open to, but having never
> learned to use an Israeli keyboard, I most enjoy using a layout that is
> anglo-friendly, like the' SIL' layout which SBL also offers.
>
> http://www.sbl-site.org/Fonts/BiblicalHebrewSILManual.pdf
>
>
> and here's a quick summary of the consonant and vowel layout itself:
>
> http://faculty.bbc.edu/rdecker/documents/SILHebKey.pdf
>
> The advantage of this for me is that they use a more or less phonetic
> mapping, and have a clever way of mapping vowels (e.g. 'e' for segol, 'E'
> for tsere;  'a' for patach, 'A' for qamets, see the second PDF link).  This
> of course would be nightmarish for anyone used to typing on a proper Israeli
> keyboard, but it's very quick for those of us who aren't used to it.  It
> feels just like writing transliterated Hebrew.  The only things a person has
> to learn outright is where to put the letters with an ambiguous
> transliteration (tet, sin, shin).  The 'Tiro' mapping still uses a basically
> Israeli layout for the consonants, which is more memory overhead for me.
>
> And if the layout can auto-manage the final letter forms, that's a very nice
> plus as well.
>
> Scot
>
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Yair F <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I intend to do some work related to composition of vowel and
>> cantillation marks..
>> To test the composition code a way to add these marks is needed. As
>> the OS does not support adding these an input method is in place.
>>
>> There are 4 input methods I intend to add to Emacs
>>
>> 1. SI 1452:  Somewhat complex and only partially implemented on common
>> OS. It doesn't include cantillation marks.
>> Image of this mapping is here:
>> http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1032/si1452layout.png
>>
>> 2. LyX: Used in X environment - more logical and easy to use,. Also
>> doesn't include cantillation marks.
>> Image of this mapping is here:
>> http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8225/lyxlayout.png
>>
>> 3. Biblical-Tiro: A complete method. However, it is directed towards
>> biblical Hebrew and is not convenient for modern Hebrew users.
>> The tiro Guide is here:
>> http://www.sbl-site.org/Fonts/BiblicalHebrewTiroManual.pdf
>>
>> 4. Emacs: For a lack of a better name. Intend to be modern Hebrew
>> oriented and complete.
>> Image of this mapping is here:
>> http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7289/emacslayout.png
>>
>> The grey background image is a common implementation of a Hebrew
>> keyboard. the black letters are the actual keys assigned.
>> For Vowel marks I added them illustrated with base letters, the input
>> method only add the mark.
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate any comments or suggestions you have for
>> those mappings.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yair
>>
>>
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