Re: [Dragora-members] Relation of Qi and Qire

[Kevin "The Nuclear" Bloom]

Michael Siegel writes:

> Am 05.06.20 um 21:24 schrieb Matias Fonzo:
>> El 2020-06-05 09:44, Michael Siegel escribió:
>>> Am 04.06.20 um 20:40 schrieb Kevin "The Nuclear" Bloom:
>>>>
>>>> I partly agree with this line of thought: why have 2 interfaces for the
>>>> same command? There really is only 1 reason for such a thing:
>>>> easy-of-use. Instead of folks trying to remember if they're to use Qi or
>>>> Qire, they can just use Qire since that's how most people will be
>>>> working with packages (if they choose to use remote repos, of course).
>>>
>>> My idea is basically the same, only that I'd suggest users simply always
>>> use Qi.
>>>
>>
>> I think it could be done as long as Qi can call those extensions
>> externally, since they are files written in Scheme/Scheme dialect.
>
> Right. You could just implement remote commands in Qi in such a way that
> executing them would make Qi try to trigger Qire and return an error if
> that fails.
>
>> Ideally the package manager is based ALL on Scheme, the bad thing is
>> that imposing Scheme for the bootstrap does not seem to be good idea...
>
> Well, Fennel is very small, isn't it? So, writing everything in Fennel
> could be an option. Also, Fennel compiles to Lua, so you need Lua (and
> only Lua, if I got that right) anyway, which would also make it viable
> to write Qi all in Lua.
>

Yes, Fennel and Lua are very small and very fast. Qire will not require
Lua or Fennel at runtime, however, thanks to luastatic.

> A potential problem with both approaches might be that Fennel as well as
> Lua might not be up to the task without extra libraries. But then, you
> could still use GNU core utilities from a Lua script pretty easily, I guess.
>

I doubt that we will need many libraries for this task. However, Lua
does have pretty decent ecosystem which can be used easily in Fennel.

> That said, I'd definitely keep rewriting Qi for later and concentrate on
> making it work in sh for now.
>
>
> Michael