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Fw: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template


From: Trevor Daniels
Subject: Fw: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 11:29:28 +0100

Valentin

Graham fixed most of the problems with the centered piano dynamics template recently, but missed this request. Can I just add this in git or should I use lsr update?

Trevor

----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar van Eijk" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Cc: "Trevor Daniels" <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template


Trevor,

If you're gonna change the template anyway, maybe it's usefull to add an
\unfoldRepeats to make sure percent- and volta repeats are actually repeated
in midi:

\score {
 \unfoldRepeats {
   \new PianoStaff <<
     \new Staff = "upper" << \upper \dynamics \pedal >>
     \new Staff = "lower" << \lower \dynamics \pedal >>
     \new Dynamics = "pedal" \pedal
   >>
 }
 \midi {
   \context {
     \type "Performer_group"
     \name Dynamics
     \consists "Piano_pedal_performer"
   }
   \context {
     \PianoStaff
     \accepts Dynamics
   }
 }
}

Grtz,
Oscar

"Trevor Daniels" <address@hidden> schreef:

Anthony

It seems that this is an error in the template which has probably always
been there.

As you have found, it is necessary to place the pedal up/down indications
in
*all* the staves in order for the midi output to correctly simulate the
action of a piano sustain pedal.  However, this will cause the Ped ... *
indications to appear beneath all staves too, which is undesirable.  This
is
why the template you mention has two scores - one with a layout block to
generate the correct printed output and one with a midi block to generate
the correct midi output.  The midi score should have the pedal indications

in both staves, as you have discovered.  I'll correct the template in the
2.11 docs shortly.

Thanks for pointing this out.

Trevor

----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: Sustain in midi output of Piano Centered Dynamics Template


I noticed that sustain information was not getting generated in the
midi file output when using the Piano Centered Dynamics template
located on the lilypond website.  I've tried the same template with
2.10.33 as well as 2.11.45.

This is the current template for the piano centered dynamics:

    upper = \relative c'' {
      \clef treble
      \key c \major
      \time 4/4

      a b c d
    }

    lower = \relative c {
      \clef bass
      \key c \major
      \time 4/4

      a2 c
    }

    dynamics = {
      s2\fff\> s4
      s\!\pp
    }

    pedal = {
      s2\sustainDown s2\sustainUp
    }

    \score {
      ew PianoStaff <<
        ew Staff = "upper" \upper
        ew Dynamics = "dynamics" \dynamics
        ew Staff = "lower" <<
          \clef bass
          \lower
        >>
        ew Dynamics = "pedal" \pedal
      >>
      \layout {
        \context {
          \type "Engraver_group"
          ame Dynamics
          \alias Voice % So that \cresc works, for example.
          \consists "Output_property_engraver"

          \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
          \override DynamicLineSpanner #'Y-offset = #0
          pedalSustainStrings = #'("Ped." "*Ped." "*")
          pedalUnaCordaStrings = #'("una corda" "" "tre corde")

          \consists "Piano_pedal_engraver"
          \consists "Script_engraver"
          \consists "Dynamic_engraver"
          \consists "Text_engraver"

          \override TextScript #'font-size = #2
          \override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic

          \consists "Skip_event_swallow_translator"

          \consists "Axis_group_engraver"
        }
        \context {
          \PianoStaff
          \accepts Dynamics
        }
      }
    }
    \score {
      ew PianoStaff <<
        ew Staff = "upper" << \upper \dynamics >>
        ew Staff = "lower" << \lower \dynamics >>
        ew Dynamics = "pedal" \pedal
      >>
      \midi {
        \context {
          \type "Performer_group"
          ame Dynamics
          \consists "Piano_pedal_performer"
        }
        \context {
          \PianoStaff
          \accepts Dynamics
        }
      }
    }


To get pedals to appear as events in the midi file I had to change two
lines in the midi score section from:

        ew Staff = "upper" << \upper \dynamics >>
        ew Staff = "lower" << \lower \dynamics >>
to
        ew Staff = "upper" << \upper \dynamics \pedal >>
        ew Staff = "lower" << \lower \dynamics \pedal >>

as well as keep all the other stuff regarding the pedal (well, I've
not messed around since I get pedal events now).

I was just curious if this had worked previously or if simply nobody
noticed it wasn't working. :)

- Anthony


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