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Re: Matrix communication protocol.

From: Msavoritias
Subject: Re: Matrix communication protocol.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 18:04:34 +0200

   Dino is not available for Android it seems though. On desktop there are
   I wanted a client for Android so i searched on Google play and Fdroid
   but couldn't find one with acceptable design. Proprietary or otherwise.
   I understand that tech people don't care about UI/UX but we need some
   nice looking clients.
   Plus I have seen that there is a huge shift to Matrix for non-tech
   IRC and XMPP seem to stay into obscurity. XMPP would have been popular
   by now.
   And what good is a system if its not popular? I don't want to message
   my self.
   Matrix is the only protocol that is actively developed, is Free
   Software (although not AGPL-3), and seems to have a consensus by the
   wider community. Also the clients seem to decently designed.
   I'm saying all this because if we want to attract more Free Software
   users, like it or not we need a good presentation with good interface.
   otherwise we risk to fall into obscurity.
   No, Im not saying to use proprietary messaging to attract users.

   On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 04:37, Denver Gingerich <>

   On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 06:25:36PM +0200, Msavoritias wrote:

     On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:47, Adonay Felipe Nogueira via
     libreplanet-discuss <[1]> wrote:
     Note: I don't speak for FSF, nor for GNU. Em 23/07/2020 18:56,
     Msavoritias escreveu: I would like to ask is it in the works to have
     an official FSF/GNU server in the future? Are there any blockers I
     can help with? FSF already has XMPP service for their associate
     members. I guess it comes down to personal preference but for me I
     didn't see the same features in all the clients I tried and almost
     all of them were badly designed. This doesn't help with convincing
     people to use XMPP.

   Where did you go to determine which XMPP clients to try? And which
   clients did you try? I believe there should be better resources to
   allow people to more easily find the best XMPP clients - I'm trying to
   do my part with the recommendations at [2]
   (for the free software service I run). In short, use Gajim or
   Conversations. If you want fancy design but less features, then Dino.
   Hopefully we can make these recommendations more widely-known so that
   people don't give up on XMPP. It's an excellent protocol and is very
   easy to use and featureful if you have the right client. Denver



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