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Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the
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Alexander Vdolainen |
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Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going. |
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Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:44:06 +0200 |
Hi,
IMO GNU Hurd is a good thing to have, btw at the moment Hurd architecture
isn't so good:
- it's a microkernel, isn't it? if so, why mach still contains drivers ...
why not to use a 3rd microkernel generation ... etc ...
- MIG ... it's an ugly thing
as I understood GNU hurd development has stalled due to the different reasons,
but one of them is architecture itself.
To change this a lot of work is required, but nobody wants to go deep with
that.
however, if we're going to speak about GNU system we're limited with a few
components:
- GNU userland - ok it exists
- GNU toolchain - yep it works
- GNU kernel/system services - ... nope
I know linux kernel just works, but it's not a GNU project.
Going back to the topic - I don't think RMS alone will able to close this
hole. It's a huge effort. To achieve this a group of interested people is
required - and that's the main problem.
Do u really want GNU kernel/system services ? If so how are you planning to
manage it?
On Monday, November 11, 2019 9:04:22 PM EET address@hidden wrote:
> I agree with this. Even if it's not RMS, Hurd development has stalled and it
> would be really nice if a few people got back to developing it. Like many
> of the people in those threads, I fear the direction Linux is going in.
> Nov 11, 2019, 05:24 by address@hidden:
> > [I think this is related to the discussion of the gnu system, thus I am
> > sending it here]
> >
> > Users have expressed fear at the future of the linux-kernel; believing
> > that it is now out of the hands of any programmer not employed by one of
> > the large tech companies, and they fear for the future if the future is
> > tied to it, solely (single point of failure).
> >
> > On the 4chan anime image board, the tech section (one of the few
> > free-speech and non-tracking boards still existing (we used to have anon
> > chat, bbs, newsgroups, etc)) has asked you if you could program on HURD
> > maybe?
> >
> > Is such possible? A stub for HURD could be perhaps even be made to make
> > use of the linux-kernel's various free hardware-drivers maybe...
> >
> > Also: most of the people on 4chan's technology board love you.
> > It's only the people on the /pol/ board (the american-politics board) who
> > oppose you.
> >
> > Links to archives: rbt.asia/g/thread/73511609/
> >
> >> Is Herd still being developed?
> >> I checked and it hasn't received an update in two years. Are we going to
> >> be forever stuck with Linux?>
> > ---
> >
> >> Linux is a disgrace to FOSS
> >
> > ---
> >
> >> [Image of your 1983 GNU announcement]
> >> BASTE
> >> I want our boy back
> >
> > ---
> >
> >> it's healthy for the 'scene' to have options
> >
> > ---
> >
> >> rbt.asia/g/thread/73511387/#73511742
> >> i do not like how people are making software more and more politicalized.
> >> software should be only concerning about the code quality, not about who
> >> wrote it or if the person who wrote this section is non-white, etc. i
> >> think if Linux (the kernel) followed OpenBSD's rule of 0% political it
> >> would be better, but that is not going to happen. i really do hope GNU
> >> Hurd will be completed because Linux is just a mess, it also doesnt give
> >> me a good impression that i have to use Linux-Libre because Linux
> >> includes firmware blobs within the source tree.>
> > ---
> >
> >> rbt.asia/g/thread/73515455/#q73516323
> >> Goodbye, Linux.
> >> Hello, GNU Hurd!
> >>
> >> (There were some criticisms though:
> >> ( >RMS stopped programming years ago )
--
Alexander Vdolainen,
The evil contractor.
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