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Re: you may not have wanted it...


From: Martin
Subject: Re: you may not have wanted it...
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:13:34 +0100

On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:02:52 -0600 (CST), gLaNDix wrote:

>My vote goes for the more NeXT-ish feel, since I have never had the
>oppertunity of working on a NeXT box...

Yes. I'd also like to work with something more nextish. A fully
integrated and conform UI is what makes commerical operating systems
(well, and kind of those free desktop systems) so nice to work at.

- Martin Brecher



>
>On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Ian Mondragon wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:05:47 -0500
>> From: Ian Mondragon <address@hidden>
>> To: address@hidden
>> Subject: Re: you may not have wanted it...
>> 
>> ok - i'm home, sitting at my computer and feeling kind of groggy due to the
>> enormous amount of novacaine & nitrous in my system (just had a root canal -
>> yuk).  but as i start to integrate GWorkspace into Interface, i'd like to 
>> pose
>> a question to everybody; what would you like to see more:
>> 
>>      - Interface + GWorkspace (thus a more NeXT-ish WM)
>>      - Interface + it's own menus (ala WindowMaker, using NSMenu)
>> 
>> ???
>> 
>> i'm organizing the menus so that they're loaded from a bundle, so we could, 
>> in
>> theory, have either.  i'm used to NeXT since i still work on it every day, 
>> but
>> i'm also very fond of WM's menu system.  so unless i get a crowd of people
>> vehemently disagreeing, i am going to pursue the GWorkspace route first.
>> 
>> comments?
>> 
>> - ian mondragon
>> 
>> * Ian Mondragon <address@hidden> [03/14/01 16:52]:
>> > |> - utilize the GNUstep NSMenu class for the menus.  i know this conflicts
>> > with
>> > |>   the preceeding point, so there's no need to remind me ;-)
>> > |
>> > |Anyway, once GWorspace is integrated, the window manager does not need
>> > |any menu. Enough with its defaults and the Preference app.
>> > 
>> > now i feel like a true bonehead.  that is *SUCH* a good idea, and truly
>> > obvious thing to point out <grin>.  when i get home i'll start doing that. 
>> > 
>> > |> no screenshots yet because the description i gave earlier has almost 
>> > more
>> > detail
>> > |> than the real thing.  no downloads yet because the code is ugly as hell
>> > right
>> > |> now. 
>> > |
>> > |Grr. Does not matter, we want to try it ! Download ! Download !
>> > 
>> > ah, but the big proglum right now is that when i click on any of the mouse
>> > buttons, it dumps core (and sounds something roughly like, "whirrrrrr bang
>> > pooey", in case you were interrested.)
>> > 
>> > but not to fear.  i'm cleaning up the code, and working on the cursor 
>> > issue.
>> > i'm going to try to have the code in a state suitable for public viewing
>> > within the next couple of weeks once i get it to at least pull up a 
>> > terminal
>> > :-)
>> > 
>> > - ian mondragon
>> > 
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