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Re: [RULE] does Slinky detect do ISA?


From: C David Rigby
Subject: Re: [RULE] does Slinky detect do ISA?
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 12:56:18 +0100
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A couple of options:

kudzu, the RedHat hardware detect & configuration utility, will be able to figure out some things, but not all. The only way to know is to try. A basic install of Slinky-RULE provides it, I believe (but I need to double-check). Mandrake uses something similar called ldetect.

Kernel modules can often, but not always, determine the settings automatically using the command "modprobe" but you need to know which driver to try.

But a specific utility to determine the IRQ/IO/DMA settings for ISA devices in general? I do not know of any. Indeed, many early ISA devices cannot be probed - the devices were designed and built during the era when the expectation was that physical jumpers or switches on the cards would be set by a tech before installation.

For the old ISA 3Com cards, I was in the habit of creating a bootable DOS disk and using the DOS-based config utility provided by 3Com to probe and config the card once it was in a system. It might work for some of the other NICs you mention, but it is pretty labor intensive, to be sure.

Sorry, that is about all I know on the subject.

CDR

drose wrote:
I've got, like, 50 mixed cards.

A random chipset sample includes:

rtl8019AS
3com 8350
AT/LANTIC
Compex RL2k-988PA
SMC 83C690LJP
INTEL 201969-221

And my favourite, a UL0020 332AA23240400

wtf? Perhaps http://www.ul0020.com/support ?

What I'm after is NOT drivers, or network support.  All I need is some
software that runs around the system and figures out that there's a card
plugged into the bus, operating on 0x300, IRQ 12 or whatever.

What I've always (ie ten years) wondered is do you need to know what the
device is (ie load a driver) in order to accurately determine the
interrupt? Win9x can say "It's a 3Com xyz123 card on interrupt 0x300",
but I still have to play "guess and reboot" to get the IRQ figured out.

Any pointers to hardware detection would in fact be useful.



On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 17:27, C David Rigby wrote:

Hi Drose,
IFAIK, detection of ISA cards depends on isa-pnp functionality being available. I do not have an ISA-only machine nor any ISA nics to test with, so I can not definitively answer as to whether it should work or not.

Can you tell us which ISA NICS you have? If you do not know the type, can you post to the list whatever is written on the cards? Particularly useful would be any strings of text that start with "FCC ID."

Thanks
CDR

drose wrote:

Can anyone explain then why there's no mention of the NIC in the
generated report.txt?




On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 09:56, Ingo Lantschner wrote:


On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:59:16 +1100, drose <address@hidden> wrote:



I can't get Slinky detect to pick up any ISA cards.

Is this expected behaviour, or is this something I'm doing wrong?

Specifically, I have a few dozen ISA NICs I'd like to use.

I had ISA-NICs (3C509 I think) working with Slinky-installed computers. We had problems with the Transceiver-Type on COMBO-Cards, but this is independent from the bus-type.

Regards, Ingo.


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