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Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049)
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Trevor Daniels |
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Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049) |
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Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:23:21 -0000 |
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:38 PM
> "address@hidden" <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> On 20 mars 2013, at 09:26, Trevor Daniels <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of prolonging the bike-shedding, here's my take. For
>>> me, the key consideration is to provide an easily remembered name
>>> that can be internally vocalised as the slur is typed in. And we
>>> need a user-centric (not developer-centric) word - what is the
>>> user's conception of such a slur? Also we need an attribute of the
>>> end point of the slur, not the slur as a whole, since it is to be
>>> applied to an end point. The word should fit comfortably as an
>>> adjective in the phrase "xxx slur start/end" as "free slur end" to
>>> aid vocalisation.
>>>
>>> I'm not keen on \broken or \fake; they have other incorrect and
>>> unhelpful connotations. \detached or \free are better. Others
>>> might be \floating, \hanging, \loose, \dangling, although these are
>>> a bit long. Of all the suggestions so far I prefer \free.
>
> \free sounds connected to garbage collection.
Not to a LilyPond user - that's development-think and not really
relevant to a user interface.
See this piece of string? Take the free end and ...
See this slur? Take the free end and ...
\free still seems the best to me - ticks all the boxes.
> I'm not fond of \loose
> but could not give a good reason. Maybe because of its connotations
> with spacing.
It doesn't sit comfortably when applied to the end of a slur, it suggests
something in danger of becoming disconnected.
> \dangling seems pretty accurate, but a bit contrived for
> reading it five times in a row.
And it implies the end is hanging down.
> \span is already taken by Scheme. \split seems available. It's a tiny
> bit nicer than broken in that
> a) it's not the same "broken" as in line break where the pieces stay
> next to each other
> b) it's not the same "broken" as in broken clocks
> c) "split" suggests somewhat more that the pieces go separate ways
Only when applied to the slur as a whole. But we want something
that applied to a slur ending. The end can't be split.
> Oh, and \splice. That one has a bit more focus on the pieces connecting
> again.
Ditto.
> What kind of word would people pick when describing a score on the
> phone? For a single occurence, "interrupted" is likely a good
> candidate, but five times in a row something catchier would likely win.
> Probably "split" has a slightly better chance than "splice".
Ditto,
> Now for something completely different:
>
> To support really complex unfolded dashed/whatever spanners where just
> throwing every split/broken/spliced/fake span end away might not be
> sufficient, we might conceivably work with tags (remove tag volta-1,
> volta-2 in sequence when unfolding, or some similar scheme).
Ah, this needs more thought.
Trevor
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), (continued)
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), dak, 2013/03/19
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), address@hidden, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), David Kastrup, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), address@hidden, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), David Kastrup, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), address@hidden, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), Trevor Daniels, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), address@hidden, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), David Kastrup, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049),
Trevor Daniels <=
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), David Kastrup, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), David Kastrup, 2013/03/20
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), Werner LEMBERG, 2013/03/21
- Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), David Kastrup, 2013/03/20
Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), Werner LEMBERG, 2013/03/20
Re: Allows slurs to break at barlines. (issue 7424049), ianhulin44, 2013/03/20