Re: [Gzz] New PEG: containment--benja

[Benja Fallenstein]

Tuomas Lukka wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 03:49:52PM +0100, Benja Fallenstein wrote:
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> > Tuomas Lukka wrote:
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> > > > > Ok, maybe it's more an issue of visualization; if our visualizations 
> > > > > always showed
> > > > > the clones of a cell in a reasonable way, it'd be not so confusing.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >    
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> > > > >          
> > > > Hmm? Can you explain?
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > Having some connections of a cell (or its clone) such that they are visible
> > > or not visible, depending on whether something else happened to be in some 
> > > way
> > > or some other way is VERY counterintuitive and makes it really easy to get
> > > lost in the structure.
> > >
> > >      
> > Sorry, I don't understand at all. :-(
> >    
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> If you don't have the clone dimension visible, then *sometimes* an operation 
> will
> make visible connections to the cell you're at and sometimes nothing happens.

*If* you are viewing d.contain and d..contain-list. I think if you 
expect a user to understand d.contain and d..contain-list, you can 
expect them to understand about d.clone as well. Especially since if 
you're viewing d.contain and d..contain-list, you *see* the difference 
(that this cell already has connections on these dimensions)!

- Benja