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Re: Website revamp?

From: Bruce D'Arcus
Subject: Re: Website revamp?
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:18:07 -0400

On a large monitor, there's so much space that I think the features
content would best fit underneath a small banner.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:12 PM TEC <tecosaur@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback!
> Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
> > 03.08.2020 12:11, TEC wrote:
> >>
> >> To see how orgmode.org currently appears, see
> >> https://i.imgur.com/XPFfBaB.png
> >
> > Sorry for negative (and maybe discouraging) feedback. I would
> > not mind if you just skip my complains since I am not a
> > contributor to org-mode.
> Please, share your thoughts!
> > Concerning the screenshot, when first impression, that
> > everything is broken and do not worth reading at all, is over,
> > in my opinion, the text makes much more sense than "innovative"
> > marketing stuff got priority on the demo of the new design. I
> > consider the list of tasks, that org mode could help with, is
> > the most important thing to attract new users. It should just be
> > properly formatted.
> Re content for the index page, my current thoughts are:
>  - Some sort of informative introductory paragraph
>  - List of most common applications of org - Note latest version,
>  and when it was released
> I also have a styled equivalent of the screenshot on the current
> site.
> These things just need to move from my mind, to the page :)
> Do let me know if you have any other specific ideas on content for
> the index.
> > It seems that new variant is too mobile-centric. On a 24in
> > monitor I expect something more than just a banner. There is
> > plenty of room for brief news related to new releases, for more
> > details of most important features (on the other hand I am
> > against arbitrary scaled screenshots with excessively huge
> > characters in comparison to surrounded text), etc. I am aware
> > that my taste is against of modern design trends.
> If you have specific suggestions on how I could smoothly work in a
> better design for the index on the desktop, I'd love to hear them.
> If you could pair any such suggestions with reference to my
> earlier thoughts* on the purpose of each page that will make it
> easier to glimpse your thought process, and how it compares to my
> own.
> \* see email in reply to Colin sent on Mon 03 Aug 07:53 UTC
> > A couple of remarks unrelated to new look but should be
> > addressed in the case of rework.
> >
> > I am surprised that Emacs is explicitly mentioned only in html
> > head title. The relation should be clear for new visitors.
> That's:
>  a) been removed from the head title. I couldn't find a browser
>  which would
>     display the whole thing without chopping it off the last
>     ~third
>  b) going to be mentioned prominently in the body, at least in my
>  current thoughts
> > As to installation, I believe that org-mode bundled with Emacs
> > is more than enough for first try. It is a shorter path to
> > become familiar with most prominent features just to start
> > editing of an .org file (or to download a prepared demo .org).
> > Getting the latest stable version could be a next step for the
> > hooked users.
> Are you saying that you find the current mention of Emacs in the
> instillation page works well? I'm currently just linking to Emacs.
> Looking at the page though, I think I should make a more prominent
> action to download Emacs.
> I love the idea of a demo org file! If anyone would like to help
> out with creating one by sending in contenders / snippets that
> would be brilliant!
> Even better - having two or three different demo files based on the use case 
> of
> the new user - e.g. programmer, author, organisation - or something like that.

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