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free "software" & geeky nitpicking (was Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software)) |
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Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:34:40 -0500 |
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Barry Fitzgerald wrote:
If the person who built my house started telling me what I could do with
it - I'd be pretty pissed off. Why aren't people pissed off like this
when it comes to software?
Well, software is computer stuff. Sometimes, when explaining free
software, I feel that I have to explain free information first, or
alone. The long "free-market" thing in what you replied to was from my
diatribe on free information, of course with some wording changes back
to "software" ;)
It's just that caring so much about this seems like geeky nitpicking to
most people. "So what if I can't get the source code for Napster? It's
still free!" (time offset to the past, of course) yet another problem
with the term `open source'
`People' just don't get up in arms about their computers, which I feel
is the biggest barrier in bring Free Software principles to the masses.
:( I would personally love to have a bunch of vocal Free Software fans
who were users, not hackers/sysadmins/everyone obsessed with "free as in
price". Because "reduced TCO" is not very useful, and it will be a while
before people can make the connection: free software -> no central
control && get your fav. hacker (u kno u hav 1 ;) to fix it.
--
Stephen Compall
DotGNU `Contributor' -- http://www.dotgnu.org
Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy,
distribute, study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it
refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:
* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your
needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition
for this.
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
(freedom 2).
* The freedom to improve the program, and release your
improvements to the public, so that the whole community
benefits. (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a
precondition for this.
-- RMS, "The Free Software Definition"
- Re: `freeing' proprietary software (was Re: [DotGNU]Open ContentNetwork: Free Software P2P), (continued)
- Re: `freeing' proprietary software (was Re: [DotGNU]Open ContentNetwork: Free Software P2P), Barry Fitzgerald, 2002/06/02
- Re: `freeing' proprietary software (was Re: [DotGNU]Open ContentNetwork: Free Software P2P), Angel \"Java\" Lopez, 2002/06/02
- [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software), S11001001, 2002/06/02
- Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software), Norbert Bollow, 2002/06/05
- Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software), Barry Fitzgerald, 2002/06/09
- Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software), Angel \"Java\" Lopez, 2002/06/09
- Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software), Barry Fitzgerald, 2002/06/09
- Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software), Angel \"Java\" Lopez, 2002/06/09
- Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software), Barry Fitzgerald, 2002/06/09
- [DotGNU]software should not have owners (was Re: paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software)), S11001001, 2002/06/11
- free "software" & geeky nitpicking (was Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software)),
S11001001 <=
- Re: free "software" & geeky nitpicking (was Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software)), David Bradley, 2002/06/11
- Re: free "software" & geeky nitpicking (was Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software)), James Michael DuPont, 2002/06/11
- Re: free "software" & geeky nitpicking (was Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software)), David Bradley, 2002/06/11
- Re: free "software" & geeky nitpicking (was Re: [DotGNU]paying for free software (was Re: `freeing' proprietary software)), James Michael DuPont, 2002/06/11
- [DotGNU]The Sacrifice of Idealism: Pioneering FS (was Re: free "software" & geeky nitpicking), S11001001, 2002/06/11