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Re: StepBox v1 - Yet another GNUstep window manager

From: Ian Mondragon
Subject: Re: StepBox v1 - Yet another GNUstep window manager
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:41:25 -0500

On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 10:53  AM, Adam Fedor wrote:

On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 07:17 AM, Yen-Ju Chen wrote:

 There is some issue about the focus of GNUstep menu.
If anyone can point out how WindowMaker handle this issue, it will help a lot. Now, when other windows get the focus, the GNUstep menu disappear due to losing focus.

If people are writing Window Managers for GNUstep, it would be nice to discuss how to implement focusing so that it works well with GNUstep Apps. WindowMaker (and others) tend to treat apps as a bunch of windows rather than one app (with key and main windows, etc).

i've run into this problem with IWM, and the issue is fairly gnustep-centric in that the concept of each application having it's own dedicated menu and icon represented on screen is not a globally accepted norm, and therefore is not present in the "standards" out there (ICCCM, EWMH). while the EWMH spec makes use of "menu" windows and the sort, they're not intended for use in the gnustep sense, which presents a problem. for now, if i recall correctly, i was actually using the XClass name/instance to parse out which application the clients belong to, but it's a horrible hack.

i've been inundated with hoards of other things lately and obviously haven't had a lot of time to devote to IWM (not to mention the nightmare that is sourceforge), but one of the things i had pondered at one point was simply going the "only-gnustep" route and seeing if we (the IWM team) could work out something with the core gnustep team to set up an IWM-specific set of atoms to consistently communicate this sort of information with the WM, but i never did so.

- ian

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