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Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA
Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA
Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:19:36 +1000
Thunderbird 220.127.116.11 (X11/20070719)
But I do claim the blind hen's occasional grain of corn : we need
to optimize against the likely abuses of the twenty-teens, whatever we
can guess of those.
I don't know what this means.
Hesitant, second-hand example : I've encountered intelligent
posters on a wide variety of topics who say they filter out all posts
from Google Groups. (I don't go near GG, and wouldn't know how to do the
filtering if I did.) Ought we to take some account (not flat filtering,
but some more differentiated response) of that source?
No. Pan should not hard code "Google Groups is Evil", not even as an
option. What Pan should do is use the existing scoring functionality and
allow people to specify *any* source, not just GG.
Better example : are there ways Pan could help with such spam as
gets past news servers? If I used Alpine as a newsreader, I bet I could
make filters like the ones I use for Alpine email.
I suspect this is going to be hard, because I guess there is little
point trying to classify messages as spam based only on the headers.
Some people might download all messages for later off-line reading, and
they might value a spam filter. Other people, like me, only download
messages I want to read, and if I see something that looks like spam, I
just don't click on the damn thing.
Any solution that involves Pan automatically downloading every message
ahead of time is unacceptable to me. There are newsgroups where the
signal to noise ratio is tiny (one useful post to thousands of rubbish
posts), but none of it is spam. The last thing I want is for Pan to
automatically download 3,000 emails purporting to prove that pi is an
exact fraction in order to classify them as ham, when I have no interest
in reading the ravings of maths nutters and crankpots.
And how about links to malware sites? One trick there is to
install Dillo and make it the default browser. There's a lot it won't do,
by design; but it's fast, and it usually gives you enough of a look to
decide if you want to paste a URL into some other browser. Maybe Pan
could default to using Dillo, and give the user an option to install it
if need be, or to change the default.
Pan should use the system browser, or allow the user to specify a custom
browser. If the user wishes to install Dillo and use it, they should go
right ahead. Or use Firefox with appropriate ad-block and
malware-blocking plugins. Or my favourite browser, Any Damn Program The
User Likes *wink*
There's no need for Pan to hold the user's hand by default. If you want
to use Dillo, go right ahead, but don't make it "standard" and expect
others to change it.
Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA, Lacrocivious Acrophosist, 2011/07/04
Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA, Duncan, 2011/07/08