Re: [Pan-users] 2 Feature Requests

[J.B. Moreno]

On 7/22/02 7:55 AM, Toby Inkster at <address@hidden> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:25:42 +0200
> Colin Leroy <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> | On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:08:09 -0700 "Himanshu J. Gohel"
> | <address@hidden> wrote:
> | 
> | Hi,
> | 
> | > > Quote-selected-text is a /standard/ mail/news feature.  As such, I
> | > > don't think it qualifies as "hidden".
> | >
> | > "Standard?"  Outlook and Outlook Express don't do this, and as far as
> | > as I remember Netscape does not either.
> | 
> | Hehe, OE breaks almost any standard and lacks every useful feature. Real
> | newsreaders like Agent, MacSoup, XNews, and many others do have this
> | feature.
> 
> As do most mailers -- Eudora (Win32, Mac), Becky 2 (Win32), Sylpheed (Linux),
> Evolution (Linux).
> 
> I thought also that Netscape did this. Maybe not. It's been a while since I've
> used it for mail.

Netscape doesn't do this -- Mozilla has a bug for it, but although it keeps
coming up as a request (I think it's been independently reported 3 or 4
times), it doesn't look like anyone is working on it.

I started a sigdash page, <http://www.newsreaders.com/guide/sigdash.html>,
as the result of a similar discussion and an offhanded claim to be able to
name 20 programs that did it (which was answered by "prove it", which I did,
the next 30 were a bit more difficult to locate), but I'll be damned if I'd
do the same for this -- just too many matches.  In the case of the sigdash,
I started by going to the GNKSA (I have a script for examining it), in this
case that leads to 29 programs that do so (and of course it doesn't include
any email only programs).

> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:08:09 -0700 "Himanshu J. Gohel"
> <address@hidden> wrote:
> : I've used Sun's mailtool, dtmail and
> : some other curses based mail/news programs.
> 
> Well, of course *they* don't. You can't expect text-based clients to know what
> you've done with your mouse.

Even some text based clients do this -- you set a couple of markers and away
you go (tin and trn apparently have some way of doing this).

> : *and* it is not documented.
> 
> Maybe it's not, but to most people it will be obvious. We don't need to
> document that you press Enter to start a new line for instance. This is
> expected behaviour.

Exactly.

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J.B. Moreno