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Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial
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Joseph Rushton Wakeling |
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Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support] |
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Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:19:24 +0100 |
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On 07/06/12 17:31, David Kastrup wrote:
I think that a larger barrier is actually the use of features like
modules in a non-documented and non-obvious way.
Can you explain this in greater detail? Would be useful to understand this
better before replying to your earlier, longer message on the Scheme vs. D code.
There is a _lot_ of barriers involved, and quite a few that suck
royally. But changing language would, in my opinion, do rather little
to address that.
I'm not trying to pressure you to change the language in the short term. What I
am trying to do is to get you to give some long-term consideration towards some
of the emerging languages which might offer a way to unify the internals,
high-level stuff and scripting language, and _at the same time_ offer useful new
language features and a friendlier language syntax.
I'm not asking or expecting you to be convinced straight away, though. :-)
One thing that's on my black list of uglinesses is the markup system
together with the markup macro. This is non-robust, and interacts with
the module system and interpretation timing in non-trivial ways.
It's one of those things that you can do in Scheme quite better (or at
all) than in many other languages, but where resisting the temptation
would have paid off.
Again, can you explain in a little more detail?
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], (continued)
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], David Kastrup, 2012/06/07
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2012/06/09
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], David Kastrup, 2012/06/10
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Henning Hraban Ramm, 2012/06/10
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], David Kastrup, 2012/06/10
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Henning Hraban Ramm, 2012/06/10
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2012/06/10
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Tim McNamara, 2012/06/07
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Joseph Rushton Wakeling, 2012/06/07
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], David Kastrup, 2012/06/07
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support],
Joseph Rushton Wakeling <=
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], David Kastrup, 2012/06/07
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Matthew Collett, 2012/06/07
- Re: Scheme syntax vs. other languages [was: Re: Appreciation / Financial support], Vaughan McAlley, 2012/06/08
Re: Appreciation / Financial support, Jonathan Wilkes, 2012/06/01