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RE: [pooma-dev] docbook overview
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Dave Nystrom |
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RE: [pooma-dev] docbook overview |
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Fri, 25 May 2001 17:29:02 -0600 (MDT) |
James Crotinger writes:
> My main concern here is Allan's comment that the main authoring tool is
> emacs. Don't get me wrong - I'm probably the biggest emacs user here. But I
> want a WYSIWYG authoring tool for whatever we're doing. I've written tons of
> LaTeX and done a couple of papers with HTML (without a WYSIWYG tool) and I'm
> tired of it (unless I need a lot of equations - I still haven't seen a good
> alternative to LaTeX for this [I'm very picky about formatting]).
If you are doing alot of eqations, I've heard that Lyx is pretty good - it
purports to be a WYSIWYWant tool. Sits on top of TeX/LaTeX. I used it a
little and it seemed pretty good but don't yet have enough experience to say
for sure. However, I think Lyx is probably not very relevant to what you
want for this project - just thought I'd mention it for the equation minded.
--
Dave Nystrom email: address@hidden
LANL X-3 phone: 505-667-7913 fax: 505-665-3046
> If there are some decent WYSIWYG tools that can save their documents in
> DocBook format, then that would be great, especially if there is a planned
> path toward XML and if the WYSIWYG tools don't make gratuitious changes to
> the ASCII file so that "cvs diff"'s are small when the changes are small.
>
> Jim
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Mitchell [mailto:address@hidden
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:57 AM
> > To: address@hidden
> > Cc: address@hidden
> > Subject: Re: [pooma-dev] docbook overview
> >
> >
> > >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Haney <address@hidden> writes:
> >
> > Scott> Hi Allan,
> >
> > Scott> I have a few questions and concerns.
> >
> > Scott> Is it clear that HTML with CSS will not work for us?
> >
> > Just about. I've been there and tried that -- Netscape, for example,
> > basically falls over on all non-trivial instances of CSS. It doesn't
> > just do the wrong thing: it crashes.
> >
> > Scott> This said, I think your points are quite valid in general
> > Scott> and maybe, in practice, DocBook is a little less scary than
> > Scott> it sounds from your message. Therefore, I look forward to
> > Scott> your report.
> >
> > I strongly suggest that we go with DocBook. One of the big advantages
> > is the ease with which you can get printed manuals. For example,
> > O'Reilly now lets you give them source for a book as DocBook -- and
> > they just print it, and you're done.
> >
> > It's not actually as threatening as Allan made it sound :-), and any
> > SGML editor will work fine with it.
> >
> > It's also proven technology: we've been using it for months on some
> > other projects, with good success. Allan, you might want to contact
> > Alex Samuel (address@hidden) to find out exactly how he set
> > up DocBook for the work he's been doing with it. But, as long we have
> > a standard process to get set up, that's the important thing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Mark Mitchell address@hidden
> > CodeSourcery, LLC http://www.codesourcery.com
> >
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> <P><FONT SIZE=2>My main concern here is Allan's comment that the main
> authoring tool is emacs. Don't get me wrong - I'm probably the biggest emacs
> user here. But I want a WYSIWYG authoring tool for whatever we're doing.
> I've written tons of LaTeX and done a couple of papers with HTML (without a
> WYSIWYG tool) and I'm tired of it (unless I need a lot of equations - I
> still haven't seen a good alternative to LaTeX for this [I'm very picky
> about formatting]). </FONT></P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>If there are some decent WYSIWYG tools that can save their
> documents in DocBook format, then that would be great, especially if there
> is a planned path toward XML and if the WYSIWYG tools don't make gratuitious
> changes to the ASCII file so that "cvs diff"'s are small when the
> changes are small.</FONT></P>
>
> <P> <FONT SIZE=2>Jim</FONT>
> </P>
> <BR>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Mark Mitchell [<A
> HREF="mailto:address@hidden";>mailto:address@hidden</A>]</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:57 AM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: address@hidden</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Cc: address@hidden</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: Re: [pooma-dev] docbook overview</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Haney
> <address@hidden> writes:</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scott> Hi Allan,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scott> I have a few
> questions and concerns.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scott> Is it clear that
> HTML with CSS will not work for us?</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Just about. I've been there and tried that --
> Netscape, for example,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> basically falls over on all non-trivial instances of
> CSS. It doesn't</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> just do the wrong thing: it crashes.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scott> This said, I think
> your points are quite valid in general</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scott> and maybe, in
> practice, DocBook is a little less scary than</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scott> it sounds from your
> message. Therefore, I look forward to</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scott> your report.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I strongly suggest that we go with DocBook. One
> of the big advantages</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> is the ease with which you can get printed
> manuals. For example,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> O'Reilly now lets you give them source for a book as
> DocBook -- and</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> they just print it, and you're done.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> It's not actually as threatening as Allan made it
> sound :-), and any</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> SGML editor will work fine with it.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> It's also proven technology: we've been using it for
> months on some</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> other projects, with good success. Allan, you
> might want to contact</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Alex Samuel (address@hidden) to find out exactly how
> he set</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> up DocBook for the work he's been doing with it.
> But, as long we have</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> a standard process to get set up, that's the important
> thing.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Thanks,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> --</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Mark
> Mitchell
> address@hidden</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> CodeSourcery,
> LLC
> <A HREF="http://www.codesourcery.com";
> TARGET="_blank">http://www.codesourcery.com</A></FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
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