Re: [Duplicity-talk] Deprecation of pydrivebackend

[edgar . soldin]

On 21.06.2023 15:50, Jakob Bohm via Duplicity-talk wrote:
> Dear Duplicity team,

hey Jakob

> For everyone except the few insiders participating in today's
> discussion, it is important to ensure that all explanation
> texts in manpage etc. do not assume facts not provided where
> that text is.
>
> In particular:
>
> A. The manpage snippet below refers to "the downloaded JSON", but
>    not when and where that download would come from.  If this is
>    part of unchanged text above that sentence then fine.

feel free to contribute a better documentation. nobody here is getting paid and 
everything is done on a voluntary basis.

> B. Discussions elsewhere seem to assume that everyone using GDrive
>    does so via a developer account.  Please update text (without
>    unstated assumptions) for ordinary users, including warning if
>    this is somehow against Google Policy.

which discussions? i don't see Google policy violations, what do you mean 
exactly?

> C. Elsewhere William asks for migration instructions and got a
>    reply about "If he already did X", which is clearly specific to
>    William and not a part of any migration recipe that could be
>    used by others once the old URL Scheme is deprecated as indicated
>    by the thread subject.

obviously the "migration instructions" as such do not exist. that is why he was 
referred to what little as documentation is available.

> P.S.
>
> I happen to be currently using AWS S3 glacier via the boto3 code,
> and find similar readability problems in that documentation,

same principle applies. if you are dissatisfied you are welcome to be part of a 
solution. general complaints will improve nothing.

> hence this mail about general principles seemingly about to get
> similarly mishandled for Google users.

and again, please handle it better, if you feel inclined to. we are lacking 
human power all over and it unfortunately shows.

sunny regards.. ede

> On 2023-06-20 14:36, Chris McGinley via Duplicity-talk wrote:
> > Thanks Edgar.
> >
> > Here are some thoughts on the GDRIVE man page notes (I used the Google My Drive 
> > approach with a regular user account) -
> >
> >     1. The target URL can be found in the downloaded JSON (i.e., 
> > *GOOGLE_CLIENT_SECRET_JSON_FILE*) as the client_id property.
> >
> >     2. *MyDriveFolderID* can be found by observing the URL when accessing your 
> > destination folder
> >
> >
> >     For example: 
> > /gdrive://11111111-ab123cd456ef789.apps.googleusercontent.com/mylaptop?myDriveFolderID=xyz987uvw654/
> >
> >      * where /11111111-ab123cd456ef789.apps.googleusercontent.com/ was found in 
> > the downloaded JSON file, /xyz987uvw654/ is the parent folder ID found from 
> > browsing to Google Drive /backups/ folder, and /mylaptop/ is a subfolder of 
> > /backups/
> >
> >     Also note, if migrating from pydrive, do not point 
> > *GOOGLE_CREDENTIALS_FILE* at the pydrive credential file; it should point to a 
> > new (and non-existing) file destination.
> >
> >
> > Best.
> > Chris
> > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 07:56:28 AM EDT, <edgar.soldin@web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > we welcome suggestions to improve documentation. if you provide some textual 
> > changes based on your experience we will happily include them in the man page.
> >
> > ..ede
> >
> > On 20.06.2023 13:54, Chris McGinley wrote:
> > > I was able to make the move over to gdrive after sending over my response. 
> > The DriveID, MyDriveFolderID, and the destination URL were not entirely obvious to 
> > me from the man page notes; however, with some trial and error, I was able to get 
> > it all working.
> > >
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 06:41:00 AM EDT, edgar.soldin--- via Duplicity-talk 
> > <duplicity-talk@nongnu.org <mailto:duplicity-talk@nongnu.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > hey WIlliam,
> > >
> > > how about following the instructions in the man page? :)
> > > https://duplicity.us/stable/duplicity.1.html#a-note-on-gdrive-backend 
> > <https://duplicity.us/stable/duplicity.1.html#a-note-on-gdrive-backend> 
> > <https://duplicity.us/stable/duplicity.1.html#a-note-on-gdrive-backend 
> > <https://duplicity.us/stable/duplicity.1.html#a-note-on-gdrive-backend>>
> > >
> > > good luck ..ede/duply.net
> > >
> > > On 19.06.2023 18:53, William via Duplicity-talk wrote:
> > >  > I have been using pydrive for 6+ years, as documented in the V8 manual 
> > page (https://duplicity.nongnu.org/vers8/duplicity.1.html).
> > >  >
> > >  > No mention there that pydrive is not to be used.
> > >  >
> > >  > Is there a cookbook instructions on how to convert the pydrive 
> > commands/setup to gdrive.
> > >  >
> > >  > I use DUPLY to drive the backups, so the necessary EXPORT and file specs 
> > are in the DUPLY conf file.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On 6/19/23 11:59, Kenneth Loafman via Duplicity-talk wrote:
> > >  >> Hi all,
> > >  >>
> > >  >> Does anyone use the pydrive backend anymore?  This would be a URL schema of "pydrive://", 
> > "pydrive+gdocs://" or "gdocs://"
> > >  >>
> > >  >> It was replaced with the gdrive backend a couple of years ago.  Before we 
> > deprecate it I was just trying to find out if there was anyone still using it. And how?
> > >  >>
> > >  >> ...Thanks,
> > >  >> ...Ken
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
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