Re: GUI without X11 / Artist Help

[jesse]

> On 2005-02-08 18:07:13 +0000 jesse@jesseross.com wrote:
>
>> I'd love to be involved as a main artist on the project. I don't have
>> a
>> completely open schedule, but I'm slowly phasing out freelance work to
>> make room for stuff that I actually _want_ to be involved in, like
>> GNUstep.
>>
>> If there are other artists who are involved in the project, I'd love
>> to
>> get a hold of them and work on a cohesive set of icons and interface
>> elements. As important as themeing is for expressing individuality,
>> having
>> a strong default GUI with a group of accompanying stock icons can only
>> help the project attract new users and present the image of
>> sophistication
>> and polish.
>
>
> Yes, I agree, the best thing would be to cooperate !
> Jasper seems to be busy at the moment :-/ -- I sent him a mail sunday,
> waiting for news..
> Sebastien Pierre also volunteered to work on the graphic side, so we
> should try to
> find a way to work all together :-)
>
> Just as a test... I replaced the default icons:
>
> <screenshot_jesse_icons.png>
> Doesn't look bad, eh ? :-)
>
>>
>> Also, apart from icons, is there a direction for the default GUI
>> interface? I saw some of the theming that will be/is available through
>> Camaelon -- has there been a clear consensus on keeping certain
>> NEXTSTEP
>> elements or moving to a more Mac look (ie: horizontal menubar versus
>> vertical floating bar, scrollbar on left/right)? Any feedback on that
>> would be helpful for redesiging the default GUI.
>
> Well, the consus needs to be build, but I believe lots of people like
> the vertical menu...
> although the "mac menu" style is nice when you don't have high
> resolution...
> Scrollbars will likely stay where they are, but of course, as the menu
> style, that easily
> modifiable via a gui bundle.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Nicolas Roard

I like it!
The screenshot looks really nice!

I personally like the horizontal menu, but that might just be habit --
I've used Macs as my main development machines for the past 8 years. I
agree with Adrian, though, that the GUI shouldn't be designed as an Aqua
clone (or a NEXTSTEP clone, for that matter). GNUstep should have its own
distinctive look and feel, but with the same level of polish, attention to
detail, and coherance as the Mac interface (maybe more cohesive -- no Aqua
vs Brush metal debate).

Maybe the "design team" should start a new mailing list or wiki and start
compiling a list of what specs and standards have already been
established, get everyone up to speed, and try to work as one unit and not
duplicate each others efforts.

J.