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Re: [Denemo-devel] Tooltips - what am I doing wrong?


From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] Tooltips - what am I doing wrong?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:49:52 +0000

I've pushed a fix that turns off tooltips on menus while leaving them on
everything else (for GTK version >=3.10).
Can you test if this makes a usable interface?

Richard


On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 10:35 +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 07:59:38 +0000
> Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > One of the time settings available in the preferences sets the browse
> > timeout, choosing a value for this (and, possibly, re-starting the
> > program) causes a call the gtk to set that value.
> > From what you say, none of these calls to set the timings were being
> > honored in Gtk 3.10?
> 
> From what I can deduce from experimenting with several programs:
> 
> a. There's an initial delay for a tooltip popup that is approx 1 second. I
>    haven't found a (system/global) setting that can change the delay time.
> 
> b. If two sensitive areas are more or less adjacent, and one is showing the
>    tooltip popup, moving to the other area immedeately shows its popup. Only
>    when the mouse gets some time in between the areas, approx 0.5 seconds,
>    the popup delay timer is restarted. 
> 
> This behaviour seems consistent between all Gtk-based applications I have
> tried, both Gtk 2 and Gtk 3 based.
> 
> Apparently, before Gtk 3.10, it was possible to control the popup delay
> time, and, also apparently, that disabled (circumvents) the behaviour
> described at b. above.
> 
> But this was changed in Gtk 3.10. Now all applications behave consistent
> according to a. and b. above. Since Denemo is heavily equipped with
> tooltips-sensitive areas, moving the mouse will almost always cause popping
> up tooltips all of the time.
> 
> > Are you able to use a bug-fixed version of Gtk?
> 
> Are you saying this has been ackowledged as a bug, and a bug fix exists?
> I have no problems building my own Gtk libraries, as long as an officially
> fixed version is in the works.
> 
> -- Johan
> 
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