|Subject:||Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa PCB pool|
|Date:||Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:38:49 -0800|
I can speak for PPZUAV in that if you don't order 100+ it's expensive. 10k for Umarim BOM cost alone. Just cost not shipping to get them in hand and get them to the assembly. You need 2% greater than BOM to account for PnP drops and losses. Stencil fee, prog fee, risk of assembly being wrong (they give guarantees but actually getting it exchanged is another matter with them)... How many out there have 15k to risk? I can't sell YAPA2 at my cost and have about 75 left. What assurance is there to sell 100 Umarims?
Yes, without any coordination that a big flaw in Umarims exists or that another version isn't due soon it's too much risk. My experience is as soon as I could have 100 of them something new comes out.
I envy DIY where the guy planning assembly can be sure a new model isn't due or that BOM parts can be shared. And that they do in-house PnP and reflow.
I am not saying I'm not going to. I however think we all need to learn from DIY and not compete with each other, share costs, communicate, support and grow together is required. I think JobyRobotics, Quadshot are included. Im in California and if they want to make Lisa and I want to make Umarim maybe we can share BOM costs, assembly costs. Some risks. We all need to communicate and act like a single entity. Please realize I'm very open and if you have ideas (all current vendors) contact me. I want to see Paparazzi become all it can be. Let's work together.
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