Re: [Pan-users] Re: Temporarily dead server

[Travis]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Bowler" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Temporarily dead server


> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:34:19 -0800, Travis wrote:
> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Duncan" <address@hidden> To:
>> <address@hidden> Sent: Tuesday,
>> January 13, 2009 06:45 AM Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Temporarily dead
>> server
>> 
>> 
>>> Phil Grundig <address@hidden> posted
>>> 513125.82668.qm-CvTjiXinU0fGRxTy+Q50vsz6deESKz/
> address@hidden,
>>> excerpted below, on  Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:56:06 +0000:
>>> 
>>>> Checkboxes/ticks to disable/enable a server would be an entirely
>>>> sensible (and obvious) usability feature to add.
>>>> 
>>>> I certainly never would have guessed the '0' connection limit thing,
>>>> if it works that is.
>>> 
>>> It doesn't... unless the feature was added for 0.133 and not put in the
>>> changelog or something.  Unfortunately... as it'd be nice...
>>> 
>>>> Deleting a server also means the entire newsgroup list has to be
>>>> downloaded again when the server is re-added, since Pan must simply
>>>> delete the list!
>>> 
>>> What I'd do would be create a couple script thats switched out the
>>> server.xml file, between one with all servers active, and one with
>>> whichever server disabled, then (optionally) start pan.  Then with pan
>>> shutdown, simply run one or the other script to switch-in whichever
>>> server list.  If the option to start pan is included, one can then
>>> replace whatever current pan menu entries or whatever with entries for
>>> the scripts, after which you can invoke whichever one you like. 
>>> (Without the option, one would just run the switcher script when
>>> necessary, and start pan normally.)
>>> 
>>> Actually, the question has come up before, and after I suggested the
>>> zero connection thing and it didn't work, that's what I suggested next.
>>>  Note that it's possible a few other files may have to be switched out
>>> at the same time to keep pan in sync.  I don't think it should need any
>>> but the one, but I've not actually tried it, so I can't say for sure.
>>> 
>>>> And syscntl tweaking could have undesired effects on other connections
>>>> for other apps and seems a bit crude.
>>>> 
>>>> So: two feature requests (could these be passed on?):
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Checkboxes/ticks to disable/enable a server.
>>> 
>>> As I said, this has come up before.  I believe Charles is aware of the
>>> request.  However, it would be a good idea to check the pan bugzilla
>>> for a feature request bug on it and file one if there's not one yet
>>> filed. As with many devs, Charles doesn't keep very close tabs on the
>>> lists, and prefers such feature requests be filed in the bug tracking
>>> system so they don't get lost.
>>> 
>>> If you file a bug, you can note this thread as archived on gmane. 
>>> Here's the thread origin post:
>>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user/10685
>>> 
>>> Similarly, you can then post the bug URL here so there's links both
>>> ways.
>>> 
>>> 
>> If the issue is "Temporarily dead server" why not just wait for the
>> temporary situation to resolve?
> 
> Largely because I'm "impatient" :-)  
> 
> - I'm in pan several times a day.
> - There are 25+ groups in the server in question
> - the server has been "dead" for 2+ weeks now (but I've been assured
>  "repairs are underway, don't despair")
> - each time I exit pan, I get the message that "pan has stopped
>  responding, kill now or wait", which bugs me. 
> 
> It seems to me that it's a reasonable function to have an "ignore this 
> server for now" option that doesn't involve deleting the server, which 
> deletes all the groups, which means re-subscribing to those groups when 
> you want to "pay attention" to that server again in the future.

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Travis in Shoreline Washington