Re: [Myexperiment-discuss] URLs and empty workflows

[Jerzy Orlowski]

Hi All

Im my opinion the old url for workflows should be supported.
I myself have some code that might depend on the url of the workflow, 
which might stop working when you change the URLs

Jerzy



David R Newman wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Paul, your suggestion didn't happen to be motivated by Facebook's 
> decision to offer named urls?  If we were to do something like that I 
> think we would have to still allow both urls.  This could be done by a 
> user registering a name so that stuff that belong to them could be 
> hosted under their name. So you would register 
> "http://www.myexperiment.org/paul_fisher"; which would basically be an 
> alias for http://www.myexperiment.org/users/43.  Therefore 
> http://www.myexperiment.org/users/43/workflows would become 
> http://www.myexperiment.org/paul_fisher/workflows.  Group admins could 
> also add aliases in the same way (e.g. 
> http://www.myexperiment.org/elab-TAG).
>
> You could allow multiple alias to be created for a single user / group 
> but it is important that you aliases cannot be reused so deleted aliased 
> should be marked with a deleted flag and altering aliases should mark 
> the old alias as deleted.  (Maybe a confirmation step in the alias 
> creation would be sensible to avoid aliases with typos being created).
>
> Workflows have a unique name that could be used instead of the id.  
> Files, Packs and Experiments do not have such a field (local_name for 
> Files could be munged a bit) so having human readable names for these 
> urls would probably have to be done retroactively somehow or by 
> requesting an alias in a similar way as you would do for a user or group.
>
> Anyway, just a few thoughts on the implementation side.
>
> Regards
>
> David Newman
>
>
>
> --On Monday, June 15, 2009 17:42:51 +0100 Jiten Bhagat 
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > I love your idea, and this would certainly be a more useful way of
> > structuring the URLs... IF we could guarantee that the names of workflows
> > and the display names of users don't change over time. I suppose we could
> > ask users to provide a perma-name for themselves and their workflows to
> > achieve this though.
> >
> > In the BioCatalogue, we have URLs like:
> >
> > <http://beta.biocatalogue.org/services/1928-ebisearchservice_291308>
> >
> > ... which are slightly more informative and these will never change.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jits
> >
> >
> > Paul Fisher wrote:
> > > I thought about that. So, I was thinking of a different mechanism
> > > using some sort of id or name, and then a version number after that.
> > > E.g.
> > >
> > >    http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/paul_fisher/qtl_kegg/3
> > >
> > > where the persons name is included in the url, then a short name for
> > > the url, then the version number.
> > > I don't know if this is sensible or not. I do know it would be a
> > > re-write of a lot of code though, and would piss a lot of people off.
> > >
> > > From my view though, it would let me know who's the workflow was, the
> > > name of the workflow, and the version.
> > >
> > > Just a thought. Thanks for the response.
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > > Alan Williams wrote:
> > > > Paul Fisher wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm just looking around on myepxeriment and thought about the urls
> > > > > of workflows.
> > > > > The numbering appears to start from 1, then goes up as a new
> > > > > workflow is added. Is that correct?
> > > > > I then thought I would try and start at 1 and go up progressively. I
> > > > > hit number 2, however, and found nothing -
> > > > > http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/2
> > > > >
> > > > > Would this be a case of the workflow being deleted?
> > > > > If so, is it possible/wise to place a new workflow into the slot of
> > > > > a now empty/deleted workflow?
> > > >
> > > > It's probably not a good idea to put a new workflow there.  Any links
> > > > to the old workflow would give the new one.  Imagine your paper cites
> > > > Katy's wonderful workflow but it is now replaced with my crappy one.
> > > > Or, if your workflow included Katy's but now pulled in mine.
> > > >
> > > > It's better for myExperiment to say the workflow has gone missing
> > > > rather than "lie" when asked for it.
> > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Paul.
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > >
> > >
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