Re: tie problem

[Mats Bengtsson]

Note that this already is described fairly clearly both in
"Basic Polyphony" and "Explicitly Instantiating Voices".
However, if you have any idea on how to make it even
clearer/easier to find, then they are off course welcome.

Graham Percival wrote:

> Hi Rainer,
>
> Fell free to help.  See
> http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding
>
> - Graham
>
>
> Rainer Hahnekamp wrote:
>
> > Hi Kieren,
> >
> > thank you very much vor answer. Your snippet solved the problem and 
> > btw. it
> > makes completely sense. Should really be better integrated into the
> > documentation.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Rainer
> >
> > Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Rainer:
> > >
> > > > I've following code:
> > > > <c d g>1\arpeggio ~ | << <c d g>1\fermata \\ {r2 r4 b'32 (c d e f g
> > > > a b)} >>
> > > >
> > > > According to the documentation the two "<c d g>" should be tied.
> > > > Unfortunately this is not the case. Could you help me please?
> > >
> > > Well, you've run into a subtlety of Lilypond that could, perhaps, be
> > > better documented...  ;-)
> > >
> > > Consider the following code snippet:
> > >
> > > %%% BEGIN SNIPPET %%%
> > >
> > > \version "2.9.17"
> > >
> > > \paper
> > > {
> > > indent = 0\in
> > > line-width = 3\in
> > > }
> > >
> > > theMusic = \relative c'
> > > {
> > > <c d g>1 ~ | << <c d g>1\fermata \\ { s2 c4 c } >>  \break
> > > <c d g>1 ~ | << { <c d g>1\fermata } \new Voice { s2 c4 c } >>
> > > }
> > >
> > > \score
> > > {
> > > \theMusic
> > > }
> > >
> > > %%% END SNIPPET %%%
> > >
> > > Notice that the tie does not work "as expected" in the first example,
> > > but does in the second.
> > >
> > > This is because, in the first example, the << \\ >> construct
> > > explicitly instantiates TWO voices, BOTH of which are in addition to
> > > the one which contains the <c d g> that starts the tie -- as a
> > > result, the tie doesn't know where to end, because its Voice doesn't
> > > continue on into the <<>> block.
> > >
> > > In the second example, the \\ is replaced by an explicit (manual)
> > > instantiation using \new Voice -- this ensures that anything before
> > > the \new Voice command is considered part of the Voice that existed
> > > before the <<>> block began, and so the tie knows where to terminate.
> > >
> > > Does that make sense?
> > > Or, at the very least, does it explain why you're seeing what you're
> > > seeing?  =)
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Kieren.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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