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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies
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Adrienne G. Thompson |
Subject: |
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies |
Date: |
Tue, 24 Sep 2019 14:03:32 -0500 |
'Smee:
I still think this campaign against RMS was coordinated (call me a
conspiracy nut) and that they are accomplishing some of their goals
right now.
It was very well coordinated with the help of big money!
Thanks Adrienne for sticking up for free speech.
You're welcome 'Smee. Have a nice day!!
Adrienne
On Tue, 2019-09-24 at 11:08 -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote:
> Adrienne, that's a valid concern. People shouldn't be walking on
> eggshells. However, that's a misreading of the case here. This is
> more
> like 'Smee realizing on self-reflection that they actually *were*
> making
> assumptions and not being as considerate as they wish to be. I
don't
> think this apology was an insincere fear-based one but one in
which
> it's
> a modeling of holding oneself to a high standard.
>
> Again, you're right in that we live in a context where
*reasonable*
> discourse gets grotesquely misrepresented and then people
self-censor
> out of fear. That is a totally valid problem, and we should not
> accept
> it as okay.
>
> At the same time, we should work to treat everyone with some
> benefit-of-the-doubt and compassion. And there's nothing wrong
with
> apologizing for not living up to that standard, even if someone's
> worst
> was *still* better than many people's normal.
>
> If I write something from a defensive, reactionary mindset, I
would
> hope
> to recognize it and apologize if I failed to check myself before
> sending
> it. That's independent from the fact that my emotional reactionary
> writing might still be more respectful than most people's non-
> emotional
> postings.
>
>
> On 2019-09-24 10:56 a.m., Adrienne G. Thompson wrote:
> > Gee 'Smee:
> > Things are getting a little out of hand. So now guys can't
have
> > reasonable arguments with women without feeling like they're
> > being
> > "combative"? Are you afraid someone might call you "sexist"?
> > I didn't see where you said anything objectionable or
> > "combative".
> > Adrienne
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:43 PM 'smee via
libreplanet-discuss
> > <[1][1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I was combative in my language with Deb earlier and would
like
> > to
> > apologize and say I'll do better in the future.
> > I assumed bad intentions and acted out of irritation. I'll
do
> > better
> > in
> > the future to consider that there are real people with real
> > concerns
> > and try not to be combative.
> > _______________________________________________
> > libreplanet-discuss mailing list
> > [2][2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
> >
[3][3]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-
> > discus
> > s
> >
> > --
> > Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN!
> > GNU C-Graph - [4][4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
> > Code Art Now - [5][5]http://codeartnow.com
> > Abertheid Campaign - [6][6]http://www.abertheid.info
> > Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[7]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
> > 2. mailto:[8]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
> > 3.
[9]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-di
> > scuss
> > 4. [10]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
> > 5. [11]http://codeartnow.com/
> > 6. [12]http://www.abertheid.info/
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > libreplanet-discuss mailing list
> > [13]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
> >
[14]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discu
ss
> >
>
>
--
Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN!
GNU C-Graph - [15]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
Code Art Now - [16]http://codeartnow.com
Abertheid Campaign - [17]http://www.abertheid.info
Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph
References
1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-
4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
5. http://codeartnow.com/
6. http://www.abertheid.info/
7. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
8. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
9. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-di
10. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
11. http://codeartnow.com/
12. http://www.abertheid.info/
13. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
14. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
15. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
16. http://codeartnow.com/
17. http://www.abertheid.info/
- [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, 'smee, 2019/09/24
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Adrienne G. Thompson, 2019/09/24
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Aaron Wolf, 2019/09/24
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, 'smee, 2019/09/24
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies,
Adrienne G. Thompson <=
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, 'smee, 2019/09/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Leah Rowe, 2019/09/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, A. Mani, 2019/09/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Caleb Herbert, 2019/09/25
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, A. Mani, 2019/09/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, Federico Leva (Nemo), 2019/09/26
- Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies, A. Mani, 2019/09/26