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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?


From: Thomas Lord
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:30:46 -0700
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Mary-Anne Wolf, 

You linked to an article that includes the full text of the email
threads.  I will quote Richard Stallman from his email to the CSAIL
list: 

"We know that Guiffre was being coerced into sex -- by Epstein.  She was
being harmed.  But the details do affect whether, and to what extent,
Minsky was responsible for that." -- Richard M. Stallman 

By "the details", Stallman means critically important information about
what happened - information that is not found in the depositions or
other public evidence, so far.   

Stallman has not exonerated Minsky.  He is not asserting that Guiffre
consented to sex with Minsky. Indeed, Stallman apparently believes
Guiffre did not consent to sex with Minsky.   However, he has asked for
care and precision when describing what we know about what Minsky did. 

-t 

On 2019-09-15 10:35, MARY-ANNE WOLF wrote:

> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-described-epstein-victims-as-entirely-willing
> 
> https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794
> 
> I have been a financial supporter of FSF since... 2011 at least.  I first 
> used emacs in... the 1980's I think it was.
> 
> Way to drive away any female supporter of FSF and Libre software generally, 
> Richard! I really did think you were smarter than that.
> 
> Look!  A person underage (and the age is defined differently in different 
> states) CANNOT give consent to sex.  That is why there is such a thing as 
> statutory rape.  Thus, whether the young lady was paid (and prostitution is 
> also illegal in most places, and transporting someone for purpose of 
> prostitution also) and whether she was willing in any other sense, if she was 
> too young, she CANNOT have given consent to sex, so the sex MUST have been 
> rape as legally defined.
> 
> If Stallman is too stupid to understand that, the FSF needs to throw him out 
> with force and distance itself from him as fast as they can, before FSF loses 
> the support of most of its female supporters and a large fraction of its more 
> woke male supporters.
> 
> Is Stallman nuts?
> 
> Mary-Anne
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