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Re: (Really) Free Software future


From: دانیال بهزادی
Subject: Re: (Really) Free Software future
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 18:40:40 +0000

No, it's not. Because you are free to change the source code and make it systemd-independant just like Gentoo or Devuan do.

در October 14, 2019 6:32:13 PM UTC، Alexander Vdolainen <address@hidden> نوشت:
Hi,

On 10/14/19 9:16 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 18:52 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 12:13 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 12:07 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:

(skipped)

For example, no aspect of either GNOME or systemd are proprietary,
using the common meaning of the term. Also, "lock-in" usually refers
to software that prevents users from switching to an alternative; GNOME
and systemd are certainly not lock-in.

I'm afraid but I cannot agree with that. Actually with systemd design
you have 'lock-in', because in some cases you need to modify a source
code to support systemd (or you will face something like this -
https://superuser.com/questions/1372963/how-do-i-keep-systemd-from-killing-my-tmux-sessions).
Also, a lot of system daemons has eaten by systemd (and to make it works
some forks were created like eudev).
Finally, correct me if I wrong, but GNOME 3.8 and newer requires systemd
to run, it's a lock-in isn't it ?


A non-commercial clause is directly opposed to the four freedoms (in
particular freedom 0). In fact a number of otherwise-could-be-free
software licenses have been deemed non-free solely for this type of
thing. Unless I misunderstand what you mean by "non-commercial
clause".

I don't think it's appropriate to state that software that doesn't
follow KISS can be considered non-free... how does one even measure
that? By whose definition is software not "simple"? Many people would
suggest that GCC, glibc, Emacs, or other flagship GNU packages are not
"KISS". Similarly, there's no concrete definition of "*NIX principles"
that one can use. Who will decide? Again many people would suggest
Emacs, with its "editor as an OS interface" construction, doesn't
follow *NIX principles. I don't see how these criteria can be used to
measure software freedoms, other than by each person individually
according to their own tastes.

As with all free software, if someone feels that some software is not
KISS (enough) or not *NIX (enough), they can avail themselves of their
four freedoms and modify that software as they like, and distribute it
to anyone else they like.




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