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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] youtube-dl might be running non-free software from

From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] youtube-dl might be running non-free software from
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:51:50 -0300
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bill-auger <address@hidden> writes:

> i should add that i have heard there are some enthusiasts
> working on a script to automatically fetch "CC" licensed videos from
> youtube and upload them to - that to me, has the form of an
> actual solution - but mostly what i see is everyone bending over
> backward to preserve their reliance on this 3rd-party commercial service
> - if only half the attention were given to moving to freely licensed
> video to the archive then the FOSS community could simply forget about
> youtube-dl, avideo, minitube and the like - such tools are bandage-patch
> solutions at best; but worse, they facilitate the downloading of videos
> that are not licensed for downloading
> if all freely licensed video could be easily transfered from youtube to
> then the only motivation for end-users to continue using
> youtube-dl, avideo, minitube and the like would be to violate copyrights
> - and to be clear, this entire fuss is only over some unlicensed
> javascript that youtube serves - so personally i would find it quite
> hypocritical to be so offended by running a bit of unlicensed javascript
> (with the permission of the publisher - btw) while the primary activity
> is downloading copyrighted videos without the permission of the publisher
> i would hope that folks would keep this in mind when reading the massive
> amount of discussion that surrounds the use of these tools and realize
> that ANY real solution will necessarily entail NOT using proprietary
> services that hide their valued content behind a wall of javascript -
> anything less only encourages reliance on 3rd-party proprietary services
> and this should really not even be suggested on this list

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