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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] youtube-dl might be running non-free software from

From: bill-auger
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] youtube-dl might be running non-free software from
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:47:28 -0400
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i should add that i have heard there are some enthusiasts
working on a script to automatically fetch "CC" licensed videos from
youtube and upload them to - that to me, has the form of an
actual solution - but mostly what i see is everyone bending over
backward to preserve their reliance on this 3rd-party commercial service
- if only half the attention were given to moving to freely licensed
video to the archive then the FOSS community could simply forget about
youtube-dl, avideo, minitube and the like - such tools are bandage-patch
solutions at best; but worse, they facilitate the downloading of videos
that are not licensed for downloading

if all freely licensed video could be easily transfered from youtube to then the only motivation for end-users to continue using
youtube-dl, avideo, minitube and the like would be to violate copyrights
- and to be clear, this entire fuss is only over some unlicensed
javascript that youtube serves - so personally i would find it quite
hypocritical to be so offended by running a bit of unlicensed javascript
(with the permission of the publisher - btw) while the primary activity
is downloading copyrighted videos without the permission of the publisher

i would hope that folks would keep this in mind when reading the massive
amount of discussion that surrounds the use of these tools and realize
that ANY real solution will necessarily entail NOT using proprietary
services that hide their valued content behind a wall of javascript -
anything less only encourages reliance on 3rd-party proprietary services
and this should really not even be suggested on this list

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