Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Re: Freedom issues with non-free firmware in external files

[Daniel Olivera]

Rubén Rodríguez Pérez escribió:
> First, please everyone remember to CC your messages to rms.
> 
> El dom, 16-08-2009 a las 18:42 +0200, Daniel Olivera escribió:
>> Now we reject a gpl-2 software?
>>
>> If this software have 4 liberties is free software.
>>
>> Becuse
>>
>> we can use this software
>> we can access to source code
>> we can change this software
>> we can distribute modified copies
>>
>> if this 4 liberties are in any software software is free according to
>> FSF definition.
> 
> 
> With a driver composed by a GPL'd module and a non-free firmware, you
> cannot have, nor provide the four freedoms. You don't have the code for
> all the required pieces, so you cannot modify it and thus you cannot
> redistribute your changes. You cannot use it freely, so in fact you have
> non of the four freedoms.
> 
> This kind of driver is not free software.
> 

Licese of driver is GPL-2

GPL-2 is not free softwre?

That is a really news for me.

If any distribution install 2 parts result is a non-free system
But if, for example UTUTO, only use a GPL-2 module and don't have
something like "contrib" repository, only use free software.

> You don't even have the four freedoms for the GPL'd part either. As the
> non-free part is hidden to you, you don't know how to modify the free
> part. Many changes must match the requirements in the firmware.
> 

but this part is really free!

I repreat the same always. In any free systems is possible install a
non-free softwre.

We need block software intallation also to prevent teptation of the usesrs?

Is the same thing.

If a non-free software use gtk, we need remove gtk of our free systems
to eliminate a temptation of users??

We need remove wine for ecample?

that is ridiculous!!!



Regards!

happy hacking!!
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