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Re: [Gap-dev-discuss] Reminder: FOSDEM 2012 – cal l for devroom talks
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Sebastian Reitenbach |
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Re: [Gap-dev-discuss] Reminder: FOSDEM 2012 – cal l for devroom talks |
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Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:29:53 +0100 |
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Hi,
On Friday, January 6, 2012 14:48 CET, Riccardo Mottola <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> On 01/05/12 15:13, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> >
> > I could talk about stuff happened on GAP last year. Especially the
> > new/updated applications where I was involved, i.e. Batmon, AClock,
> > Sudoku, GMines, LapisPuzzle, Jigsaw, GMastermind, Neos Theme. Did I missed
> > anything?
> Well, it would be nice talking about those, to show that there was
> progress in the last year. It doesn't need to be a long talk, just
> presenting them, showing that they exist (and of course that they are
> packaged for OpenBSD!) shows that there is interest.
> I Consider of course BatMon a bit more important since it is in the
> system tool catecory and not just a game.
>
>
> > Do you maybe plan on having anything released before FOSDEM?
> It depends if we release GUI before or not. PRICE and DataBasin are
> close to a release...
OK, I already guessed it might depend on it. So I hope too ;)
>
> It would be good to present the more professional stuff.
>
> Graphos made big strides!
> GSPdf got revived and works well (and together with Graphos shows our
> print-preview working, totally with native apps)
> LaternaMagica
> PRICE status and development (even if not strictly GAP)
>
> perhaps Grr? and DataBasin?
>
> We can also just present maintained application, not just "new"
> features. Most people will not know much about GNUstep and even less
> about GAP.
>
> Perhaps we should treat this on the GAP mailing list so Greg and others
> can join in and it remains archived. One thread for each app.
Before starting a new thread on each app, let me summarize here:
I can present nearly anything that is on GAP, since most of it is in the
OpenBSD ports tree, but not maybe showing all features, since not yet released.
I could also install everything gnustep core from SVN, and GAP CVS, to show
latest features.
I guess the second approach would be even better, but I should start soon
installing and testing, I don't want to show a lot of crashers, and other
strange bugs ;)
So I could concentrate on:
* BatMon (unfortunately my Libretto is too unstable for a presentation, and my
other notebook doesn't have a recent enough BIOS, so ACPI is not enabled, and
BatMon only shows a few numbers, not all it could show)
* PRICE
* Graphos
* GSPdf
* DataBasin
* LaternaMagica
* Grr/RSSKit
* AClock and TimeMon
* Mention the Games available there
I don't know anything about the state of FlexiSheet and Bean, is it showable?
I'll start a new thread on each, If someone thinks I missed sth. important,
please start other threads for the missing applications.
I could also speak about other applications which are interesting, and I have
in the OpenBSD ports tree:
* GWorkspace
* CDPlayer
* Burn (not yet in the ports tree, but works fine on OpenBSD, its also waiting
for a new gnustep core release)
* FisicaLab
* AddressManager
* SimpleAgenda
* Affiche
* SystemPreferences
* Zipper
Having a short slide for each application, talking about it for a minute or
two, And I already spend half an hour. Afterwards, I can demonstrate some of
the applications, and I'd fill a full slot with this presentation.
>
> > While presenting GAP at the FOSDEM, what would you think about trying to
> > encourage people to contact GAP, to have their applications hosted there?
> > Smth. like a GNUstep App shop, often discussed on the m/l, but never really
> > smth. happend. We just need to sell it to the people, advantages would be:
> > * better public visibility than when all apps are spreaded around the web
> > * get a "nice" looking webpage for the app on GAP
> > * hosted in CVS, many developer have access to it, and could easily help
> > fixing bugs found in it
> > * if the main developer steps out of the project, others can easily take
> > over
> > * since GAP is nongnu.org, the license restrictions to accept a GAP
> > project/app are much easier to handle
> > * give example about the applications from Marko Riedele, and AClock...
> >
> > What do you think about that? Maybe it could be better discussed on gap-dev
> > m/l.
> I don't think it is generally a good idea to encourage it that way. GAP
> is not a kitchen sink. Sure, if somebody has an App that seeks a place fine.
> But currently GAP needs help.. people like you. We already have some
> applications which linger there (think about the promising FlexiSheet
> and Beam fork).
> Greg's daily work and his duties as project leader leave very little
> time for GAP. Most stuff comes from me and you lately and some kind
> fixes by Wolfgang and Fred.
OK, then I'll maybe only more generally ask for help with the Project, and
offer a place for Apps which don't have a home (yet).
>
> Add to that that in theory GAP shout migrate to be a full GNU project.
> Stallman asked for that and there are no problems and we agreed, but the
> migration is stuck since the past 2 years or so :)
Ah, OK, I wasn't aware of that one.
Cheers,
Sebastian
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