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Re: Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs)

From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 13:12:12 +0300
User-agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28)

* Shane Mulligan <mullikine@gmail.com> [2021-07-23 10:07]:
> Hi Jean and GNU friends,
> GPT is potentially the best thing to happen to emacs in a very long time.
> It will bring back power from the corporations and save it to your
> computer, open source and transparent, and offline.

Description is too apstract.

Show me how it brought power from corporations and saved it to your

The term "open source" is vague, you know it? So I do not know what is
meant with it. There is no clear licensing that you are proposing,
neither so far you explained how is licensing solved. If you have not
read the licenses please let me know, as then you most probably do not
know to what I am referring.


You are using artificial intelligence, but in fact pieces of codes are
in chunks copied from other sources without attribution and without
knowing if licenses are compatible. If that issue is not solve I do
not see why would anybody serious use AI to create code as that would
potentially generate so many legal problems. And it does so now. So
many people gave up on Github because Github does not comply to
licenses when using Copilot.

You are more or less proposing the same conflict to come to Emacs and
I did not see where is your solution?

> I understand that it is kind of fetching information, but that does
> not solve licensing issues, it sounds like licensing hell.  This is
> exactly why a GPL LM or compatible LM is absolutely crucial and
> needs to be integrated, otherwise all imaginary code will be
> violating and harvesting open source for the foreseeable future as
> there is no alternative.

So how?

That should be first to start with as one cannot even experiment in
public without it. Experimenting at home is fine, but as soon as
anything is published in public without compliance to licenses it
generates problems.


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