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Re: Kmail: Gmail (less secure apps) advice for GNU emacs developers.

From: Uwe Brauer
Subject: Re: Kmail: Gmail (less secure apps) advice for GNU emacs developers.
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:20:07 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)

>>> "ASJ" == Allan Sandfeld Jensen <kde@carewolf.com> writes:

> On Montag, 10. August 2020 09:12:12 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>> Dear Uwe.
>> Uwe Brauer - 10.08.20, 09:02:15 CEST:
>> > Hello
>> > 
>> > I am writing on behalf of the GNU emacs developers, Richard Stallman
>> > in particular, asking for advice.
>> > 
>> > The issue concerns an announcement by the gmail developers to drop the
>> > option to connect to their IMAP service via name and password, known
>> > as less-secure-apps. The main email reader of GNU Emacs, called gnus
>> > relies on this method. Someone on the GNU emacs developer list
>> > suggested that kmail solved the problem and is able to connect to the
>> > GMAIL imap server using their OAuth2 method.
>> > 
>> > So the question is addressed to the kmail developers, but I could not
>> > find an active mailing list just for kmail, so if this list is not the
>> > right place to ask the question, I would appreciate a link to the
>> > relevant one.
> I would recommend  anyone concerned with privacy rights to not use Gmail. 
> OAuth2 is just a way for Google to force people to use Google Chrome for 
> logging into google services. Google currently block all privacy secured 
> forks 
> of Chromium from using their login services (supposedly because some spammers 
> used CEF to log onto GMail). You can make it work at the moment by pretending 
> to be Firefox (or by using Firefox), but I am guessing it is just a matter of 
> time before Google also block Firefox for "security" reasons.

Ah, well, in a perfect world fine, but for example, my university
switched to Gmail some years ago and will stay. 

Since I don't want to use any other email reader than gnus, and a lot of
people feel this way, any advice on a _technical solution_ is very much


Uwe Brauer

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