Re: Look and Feel

[Jesse Ross]

>
> On 10-Feb-05, at 2:29 PM, Raphael Bosshard wrote:
> [snip]
>> First of all; I would welcome a new icon theme, as I would a new
>> default look.  I like the OpenStep-Framework and enjoy programming in
>> Objectiv-C. But it just makes no fun if your applications look like
>> time-warped from the 80ies.
>
> They're not that bad.
>
>> However; what I really would like to see is the ability to use already
>>  existing icon themes, GNOME icon themes, KDE, whatever. A lot of work
>>  could be saved this way and especially GNOME has some fine icon
>> themes.
>
> We ought to have our own icons, using ones from other projects just
> doesn't seem write (*waits to be branded as a purist*)
>
>> What I also would like to see is some further development in the OS X
>> direction. OS X is currently considered the most advanced user
>> interface. It would be no shame to learn from OS X and imitate where
>> appropriate. The top-screen menubar is one thing but there are other
>> issues.
>
> This is nearly impossible to implement satisfactorily (ie., if the
> horizontal menu is 20 pixels high, you need to patch the window manager
> itself to prevent window positions from going into the area the
> verticle menu occupies). If that's not a big issue for you, and you
> don't mind occasionally the window's title bar hidden behind the
> verticle menu, WildMenus will work just fine for you.
>

Since WindowMaker is being reimplemented as a true GNUstep app, would this
be a difficult to implement? Not that I'm advocating a Mac OS X-style
horizontal bar, but we should be able to provide for this kind of
modification as a preference, and not have it interefere with window
accessibility.

Also, it was brought up recently on this list (by Adrian, here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2005-02/msg00058.html)
that it would be preferable not to simply make an OS X clone. Once we make
the move to clone, we're locked into that paradigm (and more importantly,
we get compared against them -- and right now we don't have the manpower
to compete directly).

GNUstep should certainly mimic the features of OS X that we feel are
suitable to this system, but it should also pay homage to its NeXTSTEP
heritage, and implement features we want but haven't seen anywhere else.
GNUstep is its own entity: it just happens to have a lot in common with OS
X.

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> Jeremy Tregunna
> jtregunna@blurgle.ca
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