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Re: project goal Re: Release schedule
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Nicolas Roard |
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Re: project goal Re: Release schedule |
Date: |
Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:17:05 +0100 |
On 2003-04-15 02:57:19 +0000 Jason Clouse <jhclouse@charter.net> wrote:
Just a crazy thought--would anyone be interested in writing a backend for Fresco
(http://www.fresco.org/)? Fresco seems to be in desperate need of a desktop
environment/user applications--KDE and GNOME seem to be absent there--and GNUstep already
has some fine user applications (GNUMail, GORM, Workspace, Terminal) that would be
beneficial to giving Fresco a leg up. Furthermore, it seems to be a wide open
opportunity to capture a new "market" if you'll pardon the borrowed phrase.
Fresco is a new frontier that no one seems to be taking advantage of. Seems
like getting in before anyone else would establish GNUstep as the premier
desktop environment for Fresco. Might even give a few people reason to try it
out. And I'm sure the Fresco developers would be grateful for the interest and
might be willing to help out some in return.
The problem is that Fresco tries to have a common API for gui applications, it's
not only a X11 counterpart ... and it uses corba, which in the case of GNUstep
is
a bit overhead as we have DO.
Personnally, instead of Fresco, DirectFB seems a far more promising target.
First, it has many developers (more than Fresco it seems to me), and the project
progress quicly. Second, it's more like a X11 counterpart (without net
transparency)
than a full gui solution like Fresco. Thus, a gui toolkit such as GNUstep fill
the gap.
Third, it has very impressive graphic possibilities (transparency, alpha
channel ...). And it has some accelerated drivers -- and then it's way faster
than X11.
What did it lacks ? well, network transparency, and OpenGL. In fact, OpenGL is
possible,
but there is no accelerated 3D driver for the moment, which drastically reduce
the
interesst. For the network transparency, it's not such a problem, as you could
run a
version of XFree inside DirectFB if you want (like you do on Mac OS X ..) : see
http://www.roard.com/screenshots/screenshot_directfb.png .
(on a side note I think that, for GNUstep apps, a better network transparency
than X11
could possibly be done ... less low-level) DirectFB seems to me the perfect component for
a "linux desktop". Actually, gtk exists on DirectFB (it's the only toolkit
vailable), but gtk isn't in itself
very dedicated to DirectFB, it's just a port. GNUstep on the other hand could
be more
implicated.
Just my 2 cents ...
--
Nicolas Roard
- Re: Fresco, (continued)
- Re: Fresco, Björn Giesler, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Björn Gohla, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Willem Rein Oudshoorn, 2003/04/16
- Re: Fresco, Björn Giesler, 2003/04/17
- CORBA and ObjC [was Re: Fresco], Willem Rein Oudshoorn, 2003/04/17
- Message not available
- Re: Fresco, Dirk Theisen, 2003/04/16
Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Philippe C.D. Robert, 2003/04/15
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Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Yen-Ju Chen, 2003/04/15
Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Boudewijn Rempt, 2003/04/16
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Re: project goal Re: Release schedule, Yen-Ju Chen, 2003/04/17
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