Re: [Phpgroupware-users] CK-Ledger v.0.3.1 released

[C K Wu]

Hi, Bob,

Um....  Let me do a bit of analysis on how much to include in such a module
and thus the effort involved.  I'll come back to you in a few hours' time.

Cheers,
CK

Bob Crandell wrote:

> Hi C K Wu,
>
> Most of my clients would be very interested in the bank reconciliation.  Lots 
> of
> them (I don't know how many) outsource their payroll.  How open are you to 
> switching
>  these 2 modules finishing the reconciliation module first?
>
> Thanks
>
> C K Wu (address@hidden) wrote*:
> >
> >Hi, Bob,
> >
> >Hsing-Foo is right about SME.  It stands for Small to Medium size Enterprise.
> >The target users of CK-Ledger are organizations that have about 10-100 
> >employees,
> >computer users, etc.  They would probably have at least one system admin, and
> >an accountant that is fairly familiar with computer systems.
> >
> >Before I go any further.  Let me throw in a standard rider.  The software is
> >still in beta, so bugs are inevitable.
> >
> >The immediate plan for CK-Ledger is to complete a payrol module, which
> >will bring it on par with similar software, such as NOLA.  Bank
> >reconciliation will be high on the agenda, but I am afraid it won't be added
> >till several months later.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >CK
> >
> >Bob Crandell wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> One of the things that bother me about SQL-Ledger is it won't reconcile 
> >> bank
> >> statements yet.  It is on his todo list.  Does CK-Ledger?
> >>
> >> I'm not an accountant and all I know about it is debits are closest to the
> >> window.  I'm in the position of needing someone else to tell me if it's 
> >> what I
> >> want/need.  What's SME?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Marc Lutolf (address@hidden) wrote*:
> >> >
> >> >We are using A/R and services, but just starting up. We are using them in 
> >> >a
> >> >German setting, so we're still wrestling with translation problems.
> >> >
> >> >We initially looked at SQL Ledger and I have to say it's a pretty good
> >> >product. On the other hand I don't want to add Perl to the mix we already
> >> >have and we would like to have the possibility of customizing the code if
> >> >need be, so PHP is a good thing.
> >> >Having the permissions infrastructure and OOP stuff that phpgw brings to 
> >> >the
> >> >party has made it easy to build on a foundation that's already solid.
> >> >
> >> >CK-Ledger has come very very far in a short time. It still needs a lot of 
> >> >UI
> >> >work to make it handle a bit easily, but the functionality is quite there.
> >> >With the new HR module (which I havn't looked at yet) this should be a
> >> >fairly complete accounting package for SME.
> >> >
> >> >Also, I can say from experience that CK Wu is very responsive to 
> >> >enhancement
> >> >requests. That in itself is worth it's weight in truffles (or gold, if you
> >> >prefer).
> >> >
> >> >Is it mature enough? Well, it was in alpha until about 3 months ago, if I
> >> >recall correctly. In my view an accounting program has to be able to post
> >> >and balance. Yes, it does that and it doesn't break. Everything else is UI
> >> >or nice to have. As long as the functionality is there I'll tweak the
> >> >templates to make it look the way I want. That said CK-Ledger still needs
> >> >user feedback to iron out the little things that make a user's life a bit
> >> >more comfortable.
> >> >
> >> >If you know phpgw the setup is actually quite simple. If not the
> >> >installation instructions posted on sourceforge are quite good, better 
> >> >than
> >> >most. But if "mature" means installing out of the box this morning and
> >> >having your accountant posting after lunch, well, soon but not quite yet.
> >> >
> >> >I'm a big fan of this app. It's a nice piece of work. I'd be very happy if
> >> >more people used it.
> >> >
> >> >Marc
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: address@hidden
> >> >[mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Bob Crandell
> >> >Sent: 26 November 2002 15:58
> >> >To: address@hidden
> >> >Subject: Re: [Phpgroupware-users] CK-Ledger v.0.3.1 released
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >Is anyone using this for real yet?  Is it mature enough yet?  We are using
> >> >Quickbooks now and hate it.  I have been looking at SQL-Ledger but having
> >> >accounting
> >> >in the same interface as phpGroupware might be better.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
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