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Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.99999999999999

From: Duncan
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.99999999999999
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:25:10 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.134 (Wait for Me; GIT 717b0ac branch-testing) 
Bob Davenport posted on Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:27:34 -0500 as excerpted:

> Will there ever be the possibility of uploading binaries in Pan?
> 
> As far as I can tell, there is no application that allows binary
> uploading under Linux.  I know that Agent can be run under wine, been
> there, done that.  But with the 1680 x 1050 screen resolution that I
> use, It is nearly impossible to read the menus.  I have also tried to
> install powerpost, with stunnel4 in wine also with no joy.
> Look at it this way,  Pan would be the only news reader under Linux that
> would offer binary posting, hopefully using yenc.
> 
> greyebeard<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
> Transitional//EN"> <html>
>   <head>

[Please take the following in the it's OK to make the mistake,
just please don't do it again, way it's intended.  I'm NOT trying to 
scare you away as for all I know you could become a long time regular, 
helping many, and even if you don't, just the fact that you're a pan user 
is good! =:^) I'm simply attempting to discourage behavior wildly 
inconsiderate of others on the list.]

Let's see, you just broke at least two very important rules of news/list 
posting there.

1) You posted in HTML.  There's a reason pan doesn't do HTML.  Any valid 
message is just as valid in plain text as HTML, and HTML has long been 
used by spammers, spyware and malware spreaders to (1) hide elements of 
their spam to get thru the spamtraps, (2) attempt to monitor who and 
where the readers are thru HTML web-bugs and the like, and (3) exploit 
various security holes in clients in ordered to get their stuff run 
automatically.  Even without that, if you use pan for anything 
significant, you're certainly familiar with how ugly raw HTML looks in 
it, and some of us use pan to read this list (thru gmane.org's list2news 
service.

Therefore, if you MUST post in HTML elsewhere, please at LEAST refrain 
from doing so on the pan lists!

2) A long held bit of netiquette for both lists and newsgroups is to read 
at least a few days of previous posts before one posts themselves, thus 
preventing one from making the embarrassing mistake of asking a question 
either covered repeatedly or already active in an ongoing thread.  This 
is preferably by simply following the list/group for awhile before 
posting in ordered to get a sense of the group, its regulars and its 
norms, before stepping in with your own posts, but it's also possible to 
download from a group or check the archive of a list for the last few 
days or preferably weeks of posts, and thus do in a few minutes what 
would otherwise take you a few days of following the lists/groups to do.
However you found out about the list and signed up for it, it should have 
been possible to read the archive of past discussion from very close to 
the same place.

You *VERY* *OBVIOUSLY* failed to do this, as there's an active discussion 
going on about the very topic you bring up.  There's little use in me or 
anyone else repeating everything from that to bring you upto date here, 
when it's just as easy for you to go back and check the list for 
yourself.  Now, please go do what you SHOULD have done in the first 
place, catch up on the existing discussion, THEN come back (sans HTML) 
and become a valid contributor to it in your own right. =:^)

If you need a link to the list archives, how about the gmane archives, 
available in both HTML and news format, from gmane.org, where the list is 
carried as gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user ?  (Be sure and read the 
information about posting on the gmane website, before trying to post 
thru gmane, but a number of us regulars use it for both reading the list 
and posting to it, using pan. =:^)

http://gmane.org  news.gmane.org

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
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