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Re: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines
From: |
David Bellows |
Subject: |
Re: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines |
Date: |
Sun, 19 May 2019 13:22:47 -0700 |
Hey Mark,
This music is generated algorithmically and there are a lot of options
for the user to choose from, so one never knows what's going to
happen. I need for Lilypond to do its usual thing and look perfect
without any additional user interaction.
For example, I left out of these examples the scheme code that
automatically adds ottava markings based on the instrument and so on.
Dave
On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:35 AM Mark Stephen Mrotek
<address@hidden> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> My experience is transcribing 18th and 19th century piano scores.
> I do get "run-off" staves.
> This is usually the result of incorrect mensuration of a note or notes.
>
> You piece still has some sort of vertical simultaneity.
> Perhaps you could start with a temporary time signature, just to see if
> voices align.
> Then remove it for publication.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Bellows [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 10:46 PM
> To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <address@hidden>
> Cc: lilypond-user <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines
>
> Hey Mark,
>
> > Maybe use bar checks?
>
> Given that a lot of the music isn't generated to fit any particular time
> signature (ie, the bar lines are often there just to break things up to ease
> reading), I would get tons of bar check errors. Plus, keeping track of when
> bars should be inserted in my software seems like it would be a huge chore.
> Is this something you think would solve the problem?
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:25 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > David
> >
> > Maybe use bar checks?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lilypond-user
> > [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf
> > Of David Bellows
> > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 3:59 PM
> > To: lilypond-user <address@hidden>
> > Subject: Unconventional score and unwanted stray staff lines
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I tried to keep the examples minimal but I also needed to show the full
> > extent of what is going on.
> >
> > Attached are two Lilypond files and pdfs showing an unconventional score.
> > Each part has the same number of notes but since the durations are random,
> > each part ends at its own time.
> >
> > badtest.ly and badtest.pdf show the default behavior. When a part ends, one
> > of its staves continues on till the last part ends. I don't want this
> > behavior.
> >
> > test.ly and test.pdf do a better job of showing what happens with the
> > workaround hack of adding s128 at the end of each part. The problem with
> > that -- and I didn't include examples -- is that if all the durations are
> > the same and end at a natural bar line, an extra empty measure is added at
> > the end of each part. I can't check for this occurrence ahead of time in my
> > own software as it would be insane to keep track of all of that.
> >
> > You'll notice a lot of context commands all of which I think are necessary
> > to get everything else to look as it should.
> >
> > So I'm hoping someone has an idea about what's going on here and how
> > to prevent those extra staves like in test.pdf
> >
> > Also, these Lilypond files are generated automatically by another program
> > I've created so the layout of the Lilypond file can't really be changed
> > without a massive amount of work. Hopefully a solution won't require
> > something like that.
> >
>
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