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Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brac
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Phil Carmody |
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Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc? |
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Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:08:25 +0300 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) |
David Hansen <david.hansen@gmx.net> writes:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Xah wrote:
>
>> On Aug 24, 5:31 am, Nikolaj Schumacher <m...@nschum.de> wrote:
>>> Xah<xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Unix is the worst, they pretty much just allow
>>> > alphanumerics and not even space. If you have anything like “,=();
>>> > \'"~&-” etc, you can expect most shell tools to erase you disk)
>>>
>>> Actually unix systems allow pretty much every character except / and the
>>> null character.
>>
>> To say that unix allows much wider chars in file names is like saying
>> mud is the best medium for sculpture.
>>
>> Unix file names, for much of its history up to perhaps mid 2000s,
>> effectively just allows alphanumerics plus hyphen “-” and underscore
>> “_”.
I have to burst in here and simply state that I think that's
possibly the single least correct statement I've seen on
this newsgroup ever.
>>As a contrast for comparison, Mac's file names often contain
>> punctuations such as “,$#!*()” and space, but also allows non-ascii
>> such as
>
> In the early days of napster (around 2000) I downloaded an Asian pop
> song with a beep (^G) in the filename. That was on GNU/Linux. Yes,
> when I typed `ls' the xterm beeped.
Most linux setups I've seen have had ls sanitise its output
and filter out control characters. To examine what was filtered,
you could use ls -b to have them escaped instead.
> I think at least the Linux kernel never gave a f*** about the characters
> as long as it was no '/' or \0. Though it wasn't that easy to rename
> the files in this directory.
You think right. Xah perhaps doesn't know the difference
between an OS and a shell?
If in doubt, simply prefix filenames with './'. That declaws
practically everything.
Phil
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- (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, David Combs, 2008/08/15
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/23
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Nikolaj Schumacher, 2008/08/24
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- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/24
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, David Hansen, 2008/08/24
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, David Kastrup, 2008/08/25
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/25
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- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?,
Phil Carmody <=
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Nikolaj Schumacher, 2008/08/25
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- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/26
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Nikolaj Schumacher, 2008/08/26
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- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/26
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Nikolaj Schumacher, 2008/08/26
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- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/26
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Bernardo Bacic, 2008/08/27
- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Nikolaj Schumacher, 2008/08/27
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- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/27
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- Re: (emacs+unix): How to have a file-name containing slashes, angle-brackets, etc?, Xah, 2008/08/27