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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directori
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Matthieu Moy |
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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories |
Date: |
Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:10:32 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) |
Aaron Bentley <address@hidden> writes:
> No, since this error will typically happen during or before their tla
> import, these will tend to be new users. And they'll conclude that
> tla is borked and chuck it.
I was a beginner with arch a few weeks ago, and I confirm:
tla's error messages are really confusing.
They often refer to tla's internal implementation, which the user
doesn't want to know about. The distinction between assertion failure
(error message for developers) and user error message is not clear. I
often get assertion failures with tla for something that should be a
real error message.
Example (not the worst, but the first I found):
$ rm xxxyyyzzz
rm: cannot remove `xxxyyyzzz': No such file or directory
$ tla file-diffs xxxyyyzzz
error finding file id (2: No such file or directory)
path: ./xxxyyyzzz
PANIC: arch_inventory_id
Which is the best?
What's the use of "PANIC: arch_inventory_id" for the final user?
I didn't drop tla, but this is in my opinion one of the reasons why
tla has the reputation of being complex to use. I can give you
examples of people that stopped using arch because it was too complex.
This is acceptable since tla is still young, but this should change in
the future.
--
Matthieu
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, tomas, 2004/04/27
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, Tom Lord, 2004/04/27
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, Nikolai Weibull, 2004/04/27
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, tomas, 2004/04/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, Andre Majorel, 2004/04/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, Michael Poole, 2004/04/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories,
Matthieu Moy <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [HEY TOM!] unhelpful error for unreadable directories, Aaron Bentley, 2004/04/25