Re: [Denemo-devel] printing margins, and miscellania

[Richard Shann]

On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 10:06 -0400, Bric wrote:
> When I export to lilypond, then convert lilypond to PDF, the resulting pages
> have a bad top margin... such that the title, or whatever is at the very top, 
> is
> cut off - about half inch, at leat.
> 
> This happened in 0.9.3 (previously I misspoke saying I was clinging to 0.9.6 
> — i
> have that but 0.9.3 is my oldest working version)
> 
> So, I just tried to export and convert in the latest git I just compiled -- 
> same
> margin cut-offs.
> 
> Is the only solution doing direct lilypond tweaking of spacing and margins?
> 
> _______________________
> 
> * similarly, about cautionary and reminder accidentals — lilypond allows one 
> to
> add parentheses with the cautionary accidentals. Not Denemo? 

sure, Cautionary Accidental, Reminder Accidental are the relevant
commands under Notes/Rests->Edit Note
there is also Ficta Accidental there too.


>  IOW: no
> parentheses unless I tweak the lilypond code?  (I'm not complaining, btw, just
> asking... lilypond is a fiend (in the good sense), and to interface to all of
> its functions with a GUI would probably be impossible/needless(?) )
> 
> 
> * there doesn't seem to be any "piano"/"pianissimo" listed in 0.9.3, under
>            Notes/Rests → Markings → Text Symbol → Dynamic Markings
> 
> and I couldn't find "Dynamic Markings" in 1.0.9 at all.

Directives->Dynamics
Ctrl-D gets this up.

> 
> 
> * when I added mezzopiano, the symbol, looked like a png rather than a
> (scalable) svg (relatively bad-looking)
> 
> 
> * removing arbitrary text ?? I couldn't find a way to remove "arbitrary text"
> insertions.

Not sure what command or version you mean here. I think that one can be
removed by invoking the command again and deleting the text. That sounds
like one to avoid, there is a nicer Text With Positioning command next
to it in 1.0.9

> 
> 
> * lilypond error: I inserted an empty staff, while working in 0.9.3, (because 
> my
> top staff was being cut off in the window — couldn't see high slurs, etc.),

This could have been fixed by Staff->Staff Properties->Space Above, but
now in 1.0.9 you just use the mouse scroll wheel on the top staff to get
more space at the top.

>  and
> declared the empty staff non-printing.  This didn't cause any problems with
> 0.9.3, but when imported into the latest, 1.0.9, denemo generated a lilypond
> file that threw an error in lilypond conversion to pdf (couldn't handle the
> empty staff), until i removed the staff.

Yes that's right. To do a non-printing staff now you need to edit the
score layout (that is create a custom score layout that omits the staff)


>   Not sure if that's lilypond's fault,
> or denemo's, or no one's ;-)  just something lost in translation 
> (conversion). 
> My lilypond versions, by the way, are 2.16.1 and 2.17.7
> 
> * I'm sure version 1.0.9 has lots of improvements, and exciting new features,
> but it's not an instant, intuitive re-adjustment.  The red and blue clickable
> zones to increment/decrement sharps/flats is cool. Is there a practical value
> for the cursor zoom animation? Seems like it would hog some resources, without
> really facilitating anything (I could be wrong, obviously)

You can turn it off (I think Edit->Change prefs), but I don't think you
will find it takes anything in resources. Losing sight of the cursor was
a major headache in the old days as you moved about the score.

> 
> * In Command Manager, I wish there was a way to sort, and search(!) the 
> command
> list.

Eloi is working on this.

>  And to isolate all commands that have been assigned a key combo, and stuff
> like that.
yes
>   Maybe even generate a printable list, sortable any which way.

well, they are all printed in the manual (hmm, up until 1.0.2 I think,
must do it again) so a crude search for a keyword can be done - I have
used this myself quite often.
> 
> * To help with forum discussions like this one, where menu items are 
> discussed,
> it would help to have a menu path/trail quick copy command... such that, if 
> I've
> drilled down to some menu item, let's say, four levels deep, I issue the
> command, and — voilà — into my buffer is copied the menu path.

what there is in 1.0.9 is a command on the left click which will put the
command you just found into a palette which can be kept around/revived
whenever you want.


> 
>          E.g., Notes/Rests → Markings → Text Symbol → Dynamic Markings
> 
> Of course, this idea is cosmicly broad, and isn't confined to just denemo
> 
> I'll stop here, and post .... might have more miscellania later.

thanks for the feedback

Richard


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