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Re: [VM] Are there plans to release 8.2?

From: John Stoffel
Subject: Re: [VM] Are there plans to release 8.2?
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 14:09:10 -0400

>>>>> "Uday" == Uday Reddy <address@hidden> writes:

Uday> Göran Uddeborg writes:
>> I've been waiting to upgrade the Fedora package of VM until 8.2 is
>> declared released.  After all, 8.2.0b is officially a beta, right?
>> But there are some issues with waiting, most recently illustrated by
>> the bug report
>> Do you have plans to make an official 8.2.0.  Or should I package
>> 8.2.0b anyway.  True, that "officially released" stamp doesn't make
>> that much difference in reality.  But it would feel a bit better. :-)

Uday> Unfortunately, it does make quite a bit of difference.  Once it is an
Uday> official release, it goes into Linux distributions, and people get it by
Uday> doing routine updates.  If things break for them, it would be quite
Uday> annoying.

Uday> Things were quite different when people made conscious decision to 
Uday> But Linux has changed all that.

Uday> The earliest date I can think of for the official release of 8.2.0 is the
Uday> end of summer.  I lost a window of opportunity last summer and haven't had
Uday> much time to devote to VM afterwards.

Uday> We will have another beta release before the official release.

Can you push out a Beta release now, with all the patches you have
accumulated?  Release early and release often is a good mantra to
have.  We've all been stuck in a holding pattern lately, and it's not

Personally, I've been thinking that it's time to finally drop VM and
move to some other mail reader with good IMAP support, probably mutt.
But the hassle of either A) learning new key bindings or B) changing
mutt to have all the emacs/vm bindings has been holding me back.

As far as I'm concerned, the problems I see lately are:

- on startup, vm doesn't auto-load vm-reply properly.  It's probably a
  stupidly simple bug, but it's annoying.  Basically I have to 'r'eply
  to a mesage before 'm' to create a new message will work.

- IMAP support so that vm-visit-imap-folder will ask for a password
  properly.  I figure using the code that vm-list-imap-folders uses
  would be enough, but my elisp skills are non-existent.

- Fix IMAP support when run against exchange mail servers.  If I read
  a message, and file it locally, it seems that Exchange doesn't like
  that command, and VM can't handle it either.  I have to go through,
  find all the filed emails and delete them before I can get VM to save

Uday, please just send out a patch to bring us to 8.2.0c so people can
at least *test* proposed changes, and maybe comment on them and give
you some feedback.  


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